US/Iraq

[KernelPanic]

Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov has said he hopes Russia will not have to use its UN Security Council veto to head off American military action against Iraq.

[rtgwbmsr]

Bush himself seems to be the only person who wants to go to war with Iraq - I'm against it and everyone I know (personally, online doesn't count) is completely against it.

[ September 02, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/ Dustin /B0b ]

[creedon]

quote:Originally posted by The_Muffin_Man/ Dustin /B0b:
Bush himself seems to be the only person who wants to go to war with Iraq - I'm against it and everyone I know (personally, online doesn't count) is completely against it.

[ September 02, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/ Dustin /B0b ]

Bush is NOT running the executive branch; Dick Cheney and his cronies are.  The ONLY reason that there's war talk is the Enron type scandals; they're hitting too close to home for the ruling elite; a target like Iraq gives them a smokescreen, that way they can do more creative bookkeeping to keep their asses out of the pokey longer.

[Pantso]

Creedon, you're in my mind. Those are my views on the subject as well. I heard Powell in an interview wondering why they don't let the UN inspectors go back to Iraq? That would definitely solve the problem, for the time being. I agree with you about Cheney also. I think he runs the business safely backstage when they use Bush for coverage.

[KernelPanic]

Yeah creedon you are one of the americans i like (ie not the mtv generation). But I don't really think here is the place for polital discusssions. They also have a massive potential to cause unrest in our harmony  

[Bazoukas]

I highly doubt it that if the inspectors are allowed in, they will have the freedom to search where ever they want.

[creedon]

OK, OK, I won't get into politics any more; HEY, how about religion?  That's always good for giggles!!  My religion sacrifices virgins to a Sun Deity, anybody interested?                            
N.B. Notice I didn't say HOW they were sacrificed.

[choasforages]

hmmm, let me guess, you sacrific their virginity?

on the more serious note, yes, we need to go to war with iraq, yes bush is an ass, yes dick cheney is a dick.

[sporkme]

not posting

[lazygamer]

I no longer care about US and it's Iraqi war. Iraq is a dickhead, and the US is a dickhead. So many smokescreens and shadows that I really don't know what's going on. Except for one thing, what they talk about on the news is what they want you to hear...

[SpeeDFreaK]

I too am pissed off about this Iraq thing, but something i've wondered about how long ago was it that they started this BS about a war with Iraq? I don't think it was too long ago, because I don't remember them making too much of a fuss about it in June. And does he no longer have to go through congress to declare war, or was that a part of the USA PATRIOT act?

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And why the hell are we always is some kind of war!? It looks like every time the economy is about to turn south, we go to war with someone or something and people always end up being killed just to sustain the financial security of the United States for a little bit longer. I truly believe we are going to invade Iraq soon for nothing more than their oil. All of those lives lost just to increase the oil reserves in the soon to be 51st US state.

I'm done venting for the time being.  

[lazygamer]

Hard to do. If the US ever over stepped their bounds, showing that they have gone power hungry, then the rest of the world would realize this and destroy them.  

I don't know how you could safely conquer all those oil reserves without finger pointing by everyone else.

Don't worry, very little innocent US personal has died in the most recent conflicts(recent as in after Vietnam). They tend to be armed and trained better then everyone they fight(cuz they fight poor people).

[KernelPanic]

Basically it doesnt matter what we think about the US going to Iraq, or anything else for that matter. There is no person or country to stop them and they know this. In fact America tries (covertly) to stop there being another 'power block' in the world. They do it with Europe and to an extent in the middle east.

An example of them hindering europe's independance is our EU rapid reaction force. This is a pool of european soldiers for, as the name suggest, rapid reaction without needing other help. But suprise suprise, before everything was complete it was 'decided' that there would have to be a body to lease with NATO. Effectively this force has now just become Nato's 1st Europe. division.

[psyjax]

Folks you want to know what's up with the US and Iraq BS?

Read some chomskey, this fucker has it all straight:

Here is a bit on his ideas on US policy, which relates to our current stance with Iraq.

http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/chomskyapr98.htm

This is a bit on Iraq.

http://www.zmag.org/forums/chomiraqfor.htm

This was written in 1998, but is still relevant to this situation.

http://www.zmag.org/CrisesCurEvts/Iraq/replyiraq.htm


So there  

Chomsky, for those who don't know, is a plitical thinker and professor of lingustics at MIT. A really smart guy who you may not agree with, but he's hard to argue because of his strong reliance on Facts.

[KernelPanic]

Yeah he is getting pretty big over here, I quite like his books. Except 9-11 which was written just for the sdake of it.