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« Reply #15 on: 26 August 2002, 21:00 »
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com:
How biased tpc.org?
Can you please find article where Microsoft admitted that Linux has lower TCO then Windows.



Didn't they teach you how to use IE and search Google in those MCSE classes? Geez, think for yourself for once.
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« Reply #16 on: 26 August 2002, 21:05 »
Did not you know that when you arguing about something it's good to have something to prove your point?
I have not found any TCO comparisons where Microsoft acknowledges lower TCO using google and IE. How about your Konqueror? Do you get better results for search usually then in IE?
And I have not found any Linuxes on top500.com.

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« Reply #17 on: 26 August 2002, 21:13 »
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com:
Did not you know that when you arguing about something it's good to have something to prove your point?
I have not found any TCO comparisons where Microsoft acknowledges lower TCO using google and IE. How about your Konqueror? Do you get better results for search usually then in IE?



I guess I do get better results. Maybe you should switch:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26230.html
http://australia.internet.com/r/article/jsp/sid/454490

 
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And I have not found any Linuxes on top500.com.



Then you are blind as a bat. Most of the systems are some flavor of UNIX, many are Linux. How many are running Windows?
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« Reply #18 on: 26 August 2002, 21:28 »
And after that you saying that it's me having biased views? Both articles are written by UNIX fans and there is nothing there about Microsoft confirming that Linux has lower TCO then Windows.
And where on top500 you found Linuxes? There is no OS data there.
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« Reply #19 on: 26 August 2002, 21:40 »
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com:
And after that you saying that it's me having biased views? Both articles are written by UNIX fans and there is nothing there about Microsoft confirming that Linux has lower TCO then Windows.
And where on top500 you found Linuxes? There is no OS data there.



I wish there was a list broken down by OS but unfortunately I can't seem to find one. So it takes a little research by digging into the links of the computers themselves. You'll probably find that all of the ones that are listed as "self-made" to run Linux.  I don't believe you will find a single Windows machine on the list.  Here is one running Linux:

http://www.danforthcenter.org/skolnick/cluster.htm
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« Reply #20 on: 26 August 2002, 13:15 »
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com:
How about GaydenAnthonySucks.com?
Why you are running vulnerable version of Apache on your site?
Server: Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.23 (Mandrake Linux/4.1mdk) PHP/4.1.2\r\n
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-17.html
Why do I know about? Why your super secure UNIX solution tells me about it even when I have not specifically asked for it?


There called HTTP headers, why are you using a vulnerable version of IIS?
 
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Why do you allow to browse "misc" directory?


Proably because he is not a paranoid little fuck.
 
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http://www.badconnections.net/misc
http://www.badconnections.net/misc/snapshot1.png
Do you think I'm promoting my site, in anti-Microsoft group, be reasonable? Do I think I get paid for no of hits?


I think you just get your jollies from it!
 
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And I'm not posting anymore to this message board


Your as bad as my ex girlfriend...
 
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becouse people here are like toothless dogs, they bark but can not bite becouse they can prove nothing. I have asked pretty easy question in thread "Can you do in UNIX" and has not got a single reply! (Apart from somebody who decided to maximize current window and this way limit user to single program).
Ok, here is what I think at this point (though it's my own point of view).
There is place for both UNIX and Windows. Time will show which OS will prevail.


Are you some evil Microsoft Monopoly Loving dick like XP Luser, Lucky i showed him that if Microsoft Succseed that it will probably take over the world!
 
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 All what you are getting for free actually cost somebody weekends of coding etc.


Im one of those people which make code and submit bug reports, and then Microsoft come and rip it off (Windows XP Login for example)
 
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So you need to thank them for what they are doing, if it would not be for them, you would not have any points to make at all becouse as soon as you start talking Solaris, IPlanet, Oracle etc you are talking about price tag which beats Microsoft by 2 at least.
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Yes but the pricing is not per computer... I could install Microsoft on 1000 computers and Windows 100 for the same price. Anyway i paid for Red-Hat 7.3 and 7.2.
 
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As far as technical aspects are corncerned then I do feel that Windows is stronger then Linux. You can try to make me change my mind but I can't see any technical data for that so far.

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Microsoft Windows regularly crashed and is stricken to a GUI, Linux has high customizability. Microsoft server products are crappy because they are only new to servers. They are using there resonable workstation technology and putting server technology which leads to an easy-to-configure server. I used to like Microsoft in fact love Microsoft, i used to think Bill Gates must be a genius. And then i try'd Linux and it made me thing fuck all of Microsoft and that was in the Red-Hat 7.0 days. (Last Year) and i thought "What the fuck is wrong with Windows" because then a few months after using Linux and Win 98 because Microsoft cant program a kernel for shit. My Computer was wiped from a virus, which lead to me failing 3 classes last year, so then i installed Linux and only Linux, then i decided to try Windows 2000 to play games and a few other things. Its ok but is buggy.
 
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And what really surprises me is emphasis which was made on my rudiment knowledge of UNIX. Yes I don't know it well (may be not at all) but how long do I need to know it before you consider me to be able to make sensible decisions?


Well since you bring it up, ask Linus torvalds which is better... He has masters degree in comp science. And bill gates is a dropout. So obvously Linux is better!
 
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Just not to be biased and see the other side of the story I passed 2 exams for Sun Solaris Administrator. Part of course included full systems administration exercises. I did install system, used backup solution, shared files, used central authentication repository (NIS), installed patches, profiled system perfomance, managed users, assigned file permissions etc. It's 48 chapters of common administration tasks. Have you gone through 48 chapters of MCSE course?


No but on a old thread of this forum we found a 12 year old who had... it was on the news... so obviously you have to be smart...

Read "Structured Computer Organization."
its from 82 but has a lot on Unix and how it kicks ass!
 
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 Well, anyway, do you really think that in order to get a taste of soup you need to drink the whole bowl or just couple of tablespoons would be enough?


So why did Microsoft servers go down earlier this year 5% and apache went up 6% according to netcraft.
 
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P.S. I do apologize to everybody for my racist statement. You need to understand that I was brought up in country when there is 1 black person per 100,000 whites, so I did not have a chance neither to know anybody personally no even talk to anybody. All my opinions are pretty much based on movies.


I am in a country where the racial tension has forced a new aborignal-only school in my area, and i thing your filthy!
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As for texas...

Any -e way i might jus goo smake maa wife in da eye

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« Reply #21 on: 27 August 2002, 22:34 »
You really dont know much about linux do you? If you look at

http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/2002/MDKSA-2002-039-1.php?dis=8.2

and

http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/2002/MDKSA-2002-039-2.php?dis=8.2

You should understand then that I am running the Apache advanced extranet server 1.3.23 4.1mdk, whick is the version that is patched for those super old vulnerabilities. If I was running 1.3.23 4mdk, Id be running the old vulnerable version. Look at http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=on&mode_w=on&site=www.badconnections.net&submit=Examine and you will see that I patched that back in early July. You just made yourself look like an idiot. Just because Im a linux user and I challenge your ideas doesnt mean Im a foolish sys admin. By the way, I created the misc directory specifically for people to browse, there is nothing in there but pictures, but if you think you can break into my box with those pics then go ahead.....lol

 
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Originally posted by www.unixsucks.com:
[qb]How about GaydenAnthonySucks.com?
Why you are running vulnerable version of Apache on your site?
Server: Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.23 (Mandrake Linux/4.1mdk) PHP/4.1.2\r\n



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