My ship came in.

[hm_murdock]

Yes. Warp drive bends the rules of relativity to move the vessel at many factors of c.

Warp 1 is c

Warp 2 is c^2

Warp 3 is c^3

Warp 4 is c^4

et al

[Paladin9]

actually the warp equation is more coplicated then "warp 1 = c^1  war[ 2 = c^3 etc".  Warp 1 is equal to c.  However warp 2 is about 10.4c and warp 3 is about 39c.  This is the TNG erea scale though.  The TOS erea(and probably ENT too) used a different scale.  Here is the equation for the TOS erea warp factor: WF=(v/c)^1/3.  This scale allows the warp scale to be infinate.  However the newer 24th century scale works so that warp 10 is infinate. Here is a good map of the warp scale:

 

[Orethrius]

In case anyone is wondering, Paladin linked an image from Ex Astris Scientia's Treknology Area.

Refalm's original question remains though; while one could enter warp drive without the usage of the impulse drives - being in and of themselves separate defined entities - wouldn't a standing warp like this put undue strain on the Structural Integrity Field and Inertial Dampening Field (SIF/IDF respectively), possibly indirectly leading to partial collapse of the spaceframe?

EDIT: So I guess the better question would be, could one SAFELY enter warp without using the impulse drives?

[ July 17, 2004: Message edited by: Midnight Candidate ]

[Paladin9]

quote:Originally posted by Midnight Candidate:
In case anyone is wondering, Paladin linked an image from Ex Astris Scientia's Treknology Area.

Yes, I forgot to mention that the picture came from Ex Astris Scientia which is an awesome star trek site, even for the most hard core trekkie.

[hm_murdock]

the chart is bunk, as it references "infinite velocity" :-D

[Paladin9]

quote:Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
the chart is bunk, as it references "infinite velocity" :-D

It shows that warp 10 is infinate speed and is therefore impossible to reach.  At warp 10, a ship would occupy all points in space at once.

[hm_murdock]

incorrect. that is impossible. w/f 10 is simply the next barrier.

if I controlled Trek, then it would be broken, and people would say "good, it was done" and nobody would give a shit about any damn "infinite velocity"

infinite velocity is bunk science.

[Orethrius]

Jimmy, if you want to be picky, this entire field is bunk science.  Sci-fi.  Made up, on the spot.

With that out of the way, Tom Paris has already exceeded Warp 10 (as well as the Borg on numerous occasions) - commonly referred to as the "Transwarp barrier."  He found that a wholly humanoid body begins to take on lizard-like characteristics in order to cope with the physical strains presented by this new speed.

[hm_murdock]

>sneeze<

Sorry... I'm allergic to bullshit.

[hm_murdock]

update:

I got NX-01's warp engine on. I finally just melted that block off with FIRE and then built up a new one using putty. I used a helluva lot of glue, but it's on. it's ugly, but it's on.

I feel that Art Asylum owes me a refund or replacement for these ships. for the money they charge for these little tiny things, that's unacceptable.

Add to that the fact that they have like nine sounds, but only one button to control all the sounds.

Playmates' stuff rocked. I've got the TOS Enterprise and it's awesome.

I love my Playmates Star Trek collection.

BTW, I play with my toys because it's fun.

[mobrien_12]

quote:Originally posted by Refalm:
I'm still wondering though... is it possible to go to warp when the impulse engine is down?
Some episodes say yes, others seem to say no... very confusing.

According to Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise ships in the original series could.  By ST:  The Motion Picture, this ability was taken out to make lighter warp engines so ships needed the impulse  engine to go to warp.  

I don't know about TNG and later.

[mobrien_12]

quote:Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
BTW, I play with my toys because it's fun.

GOOD!  The whole NRFB mentality pisses me off.

[ July 21, 2004: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]

[Stilly]

that always reminds me of an episode of dexter's lab where they collect the action figures.

[Refalm]

quote:the stiller: that always reminds me of an episode of dexter's lab where they collect the action figures.

The one where they go to the Star Check convention was one of the best  
My favourate episode remains the one where the family goes to Chubby's Pizza Palace.

[Orethrius]

quote:Originally posted by Refalm:


The one where they go to the Star Check convention was one of the best    
My favourate episode remains the one where the family goes to Chubby's Pizza Palace.

Stinkin' hunk o' mustard, yeah yeah yeah...