Today in the news...

[Kintaro]

MS/DOJ Stuff:
http://pcworld.idg.com.au/idg2.nsf/p/0006C34A?OpenDocument&n=e&c=PC
Security Holes:
http://pcworld.idg.com.au/idg2.nsf/p/0006C2DA?OpenDocument&n=e&c=PC

[Ctrl Alt Del 123]

The only reason I care about the MS Anti-trust case is because of all the MS middleware I can get rid of with SP1.

And for the MSN messenger flaw, AIM had one too, so has Yahoo.

[iancom]

quote: And for the MSN messenger flaw, AIM had one too, so has Yahoo.  

...but no-one was forced into being exposed to the AIM/Yahoo vulnerabilities simply by installing their operating system.

With XP (and I was gobsmacked when I first installed XP [I had to for one of our Directors' laptops...] and found this) it's incredibly difficult to properly get rid of MSN Messenger. Most normal users just won't be able to do it, or will give up and live with it.

And that leaves them exposed to a security hole in a product they didn't ask for, don't need and in fact don't want...

[Ctrl Alt Del 123]

I agree with you, I HATE it how MSN messenger is forced on users with XP. However, SP1 for XP lets normal users easily uninstall it (supposedly).

[Calum]

in my experience, every new patch for windows makes it more and more unstable. why should you need to install a patch? i have nothing against releasing patches actually, but M$ has a habit of their patches "updating" dlls and registry entries that never needed to be touched in the first place, making programs break and fail. They don't ask your permission, and it makes the whole system unstable.

[Kintaro]

Seing idiots like Zombie post every flaw with Mozilla/Linux i will post every flaw i find about Windows!!!

[Master of Reality]

quote:Originally posted by X11:
Seing idiots like Zombie post every flaw with Mozilla/Linux i will post every flaw i find about Windows!!!

posting every flaw in windows?!!
i dont think you really want to devote your life to such a huge quest as that.

[pkd_lives]

Best stated by M$. Quote found on UK's Private Eye magazine.

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[Kintaro]

quote:Originally posted by Master of Reality:

posting every flaw in windows?!!
i dont think you really want to devote your life to such a huge quest as that.

I dont think there is enough life to do that ever!

[Calum]

you'd ave to hire a lot of people to catalogue all those flaws, and get them to check each other's work, since one man's flaw is another's 'enhanced feature'.

OR
What you could do is get a million monkeys, and sit them all down at intel PCs running windows and log their output. It would eventually resemle a complete flaws list for M$' entire range of products! also you would get a free copy of the complete works of shakespeare to boot!