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« Reply #45 on: 7 May 2004, 23:03 »
xeen makes a good point about the economy.  The seroius debt Bush it putting the country in will effect us(those of us here who live in the states) becuase WE will have to pay off all of that debt some years from now, and the only way to do it would probably have to be high taxes.  Anyone else who lives in California will also have to pay back the 15 billion bond that the termina- uh, Arnold passed.  It will probably cost around 30 billion to pay it off! So I am really fucked.
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« Reply #46 on: 8 May 2004, 01:11 »
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Originally posted by Paladin9:
xeen makes a good point about the economy.  The seroius debt Bush it putting the country in will effect us(those of us here who live in the states) becuase WE will have to pay off all of that debt some years from now, and the only way to do it would probably have to be high taxes.  Anyone else who lives in California will also have to pay back the 15 billion bond that the termina- uh, Arnold passed.  It will probably cost around 30 billion to pay it off! So I am really fucked.


and what good point about the economy was that?

 
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The last 4 years we have seen the economy go down the toilet, and it ain't improving.

it went down the toilet? uh...ya! where have you been the last 3 years? have you not been paying attention? yes, the economy was horrid after 9/11, it was expected. pull your head out of your ass and look around once in awhile. provide proof that it is NOT improving.

 
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The Iraq war is costing hundreds of billions of dollars that the government does not have.

the US gov. handles TRILLIONS of dollars per day; i am quite sure a few billion is nothing to worry about in the long run.

 
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They are taking this money by adding to the national debt, which in case you don't know translates to robbing future generations (us) of money and ingnoring the problem. So in a few years when you're out in the real world this economical problem will directly affect you. And if not, it will definately affect your children. That's just great aint it?

The US has had an enormous debt for quite awhile. guess what: there is no possible way we can pay it off in a 4 year period. get over it. perhaps we should STOP sending so much damn aid to countries that hate us and use THAT money to pay back the debt  

 
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Finally, here's something you might REALLY want to think about. Do some simple research, or just watch/read some recent news, and you will find out that over the past 2-3 years the Bush administration has been quietly reopening up offices and hiring staff for the draft control (whatever it's called). Do some more research and you'll find out that Congress currently has at least 2 draft bills going around. You're currently in high school. Guess what? You will very soon be of military age  If you can't see how these things DO affect you, good luck!

now here is something that i can beleive, and something that i'm not real excited about. being a junior in HS, i would probibly get drafted if a draft was issued.
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« Reply #47 on: 8 May 2004, 02:44 »
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i would probibly get drafted if a draft was issued.


How ironic. Seeing that makes me want Bush to stay in.
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« Reply #48 on: 8 May 2004, 04:04 »
good. bush should stay in  

on a side note: hope to dissappoint you, but if i remember, people who were in college weren't really drafted as much as those who were not in college. i have about 8 or so years of college ahead of me, so that would put my final graduation from med. school when i'm 26, which is (i think) the upper bound for the range in the age group that is drafted. there is no possiblility that i would be drafted if they excuse college students  
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« Reply #49 on: 8 May 2004, 04:17 »
so....

i come back and where i said this isn't the place to bitch about bush it seems all you fuckers have. i dont really like him either good fuck can you all resist a chance to bitch.

so how many of you are doing work to help kerry in the election this year? how many of you encouraging people to vote? how many of you attend peace rallies? how many write to congressmen?

bush is gonna win the next election, it may suck but if the democrats can't get a decent candidate then fuck them.
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« Reply #50 on: 8 May 2004, 04:17 »
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The US has had an enormous debt for quite awhile. guess what: there is no possible way we can pay it off in a 4 year period. get over it. perhaps we should STOP sending so much damn aid to countries that hate us and use THAT money to pay back the debt  


Tell you what, how about you stop spending money on wars of conquest? And it wouldn't hurt either if you stop giving the third of all your foreign financial aid to a country that segregates its citizens.
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« Reply #51 on: 8 May 2004, 04:19 »
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on a side note: hope to dissappoint you, but if i remember, people who were in college weren't really drafted as much as those who were not in college. i have about 8 or so years of college ahead of me, so that would put my final graduation from med. school when i'm 26, which is (i think) the upper bound for the range in the age group that is drafted. there is no possiblility that i would be drafted if they excuse college students


So it'll just be working class kids conscripted to fight Bush's oil war then.
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« Reply #52 on: 8 May 2004, 04:23 »
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Tell you what, how about you stop spending money on wars of conquest? And it wouldn't hurt either if you stop giving the third of all your foreign financial aid to a country that segregates its citizens.


Or to any of these
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« Reply #53 on: 8 May 2004, 06:42 »
I was trying to be pro bush, but siplus was being too serious.  As for the economy, it is doing better but we are in some serious fucking debt.  What bush is doing is like someone charging $1000 to their credit card every month to increase their income.  Sure, you would have a lot more money but you would also be getting deep in debt.
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« Reply #54 on: 8 May 2004, 06:43 »
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good. bush should stay in    

on a side note: hope to dissappoint you, but if i remember, people who were in college weren't really drafted as much as those who were not in college. i have about 8 or so years of college ahead of me, so that would put my final graduation from med. school when i'm 26, which is (i think) the upper bound for the range in the age group that is drafted. there is no possiblility that i would be drafted if they excuse college students    



Time and time again it has been stated that if the draft were to ever come back for whatever reason, it would be totally different from that of the Vietnam era. They don't want to have history repeat itself where the rich kids get to dodge the draft, others join college to avoid it, etc.. It would be a much more fair system.
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« Reply #55 on: 8 May 2004, 06:43 »
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Tell you what, how about you stop spending money on wars of conquest? And it wouldn't hurt either if you stop giving the third of all your foreign financial aid to a country that segregates its citizens.


i wish we would. other countries can take care of themselves (for the most part).

   
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So it'll just be working class kids conscripted to fight Bush's oil war then.

1) i am not a member of a rich family by any means. ANYONE can get into college in america if they want to because of the emphasis on education. only a moron or someone with an easy life would pass up the opprotunity for higher education.
2) it's not an "oil war." again, you are showing your ignorance.

edit: however, in Israel's case, i wouldn't mind sending aid. they seem to be the only nation in the middle east that has sanity
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« Reply #56 on: 8 May 2004, 06:47 »
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Time and time again it has been stated that if the draft were to ever come back for whatever reason, it would be totally different from that of the Vietnam era. They don't want to have history repeat itself where the rich kids get to dodge the draft, others join college to avoid it, etc.. It would be a much more fair system.


so you are saying it would be fair for, lets say a family of 4 who is sent 2 kids to college and is bearly able to make college payments to have their children be drafted and die so that their investment is wasted? that would have very negative effects on the economy. i say send the dumb ones who are going no where with their life, but that is just my opinion  
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« Reply #57 on: 8 May 2004, 06:54 »
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2) it's not an "oil war." again, you are showing your ignorance.


It's about conquest, too.
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« Reply #58 on: 8 May 2004, 07:41 »
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It's about conquest, too.


i'm starting to wonder if all of you fanatically anti-bush'ers really know what you are talking about, or if you just sit there trying to think up what lie to endorse next. what frustrates me most is when the liberal media/figureheads try to discredit anything/anyone who does not follow what they want, and the only way they can do this is by the spread of FUD and lies
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« Reply #59 on: 8 May 2004, 07:46 »
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what frustrates me most is when the liberal media/figureheads try to discredit anything/anyone who does not follow what they want, and the only way they can do this is by the spread of FUD and lies


That description would be much more appropriate for Republican shills than what you call the 'liberal' media (which I don't personally find very liberal). And if  this is not pure imperialism, I don't know what is.
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