No E3 for the Frogs

[lazygamer]

Calum, I'd just like you to know that I respect you alot, and I thank you for taking the time to respond to things like this. Apathy, and especially apathy for internet discussions, make it very easy to choose not to get involved in threads like this.

[Pissed_Macman]

SO SHUTUP!!!!!!

[Pantso]

Hey Macman, you can't come in here and spark a debate by posting links to such articles and then tell people to shut up! Then why did you post it in the first place? What did you really expect?

Now, I won't bother answering to 16 year old kids that haven't even crossed their own state's borders yet. Have a look around, visit more countries, get to know more people and cultures and then come back here to post.

If only you knew where you'd be without the French! You seem to be forgetting that it's because of the French that you're now enjoying your so-called freedom.

That's all..

[Pissed_Macman]

I SAID I WAS KIDDING!!!!! I DON'T HATE THE FRENCH FOR THE FIFTEENTH TIME AND THIS WHOLE DEBATE IS RETARDED!!!!!! I WAS MAKING FUN OF THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE FUN OF THEM BUT NOW I SEE YOU GUYS ARE ALL A BUNCH OF HUMORLESS NITWITS!!!!!!!!!!! (no offense)

[ June 06, 2003: Message edited by: Macman: HAS 1000 POSTS ]

[Pantso]

quote:Originally posted by Macman: HAS 1000 POSTS:
I SAID I WAS KIDDING!!!!! I DON'T HATE THE FRENCH FOR THE FIFTEENTH TIME AND THIS WHOLE DEBATE IS RETARDED!!!!!! I WAS MAKING FUN OF THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE FUN OF THEM BUT NOW I SEE YOU GUYS ARE ALL A BUNCH OF HUMORLESS NITWITS!!!!!!!!!!! (no offense)

[ June 06, 2003: Message edited by: Macman: HAS 1000 POSTS ]

lol    I know you were kidding. I was just pulling your leg  

[Pissed_Macman]

quote:Originally posted by Panos:


lol       I know you were kidding. I was just pulling your leg      

grrrrrrrrrr....

[TheQuirk]

There's pee in the elevator. It doesn't smell like it should.

[solo]

::sigh::

Alright, for the sake of trying to save FMS' forums I apologize. Siplus has stated much of what I would say so I won't repeat it. Calum, I'm sorry about calling you a troll, I suppose our definitions of a troll differ somewhat. I of course value all of the opinions at FMS, political, technological, moral. However we come from [stress]so many[/stress] different places that political discussion seems to just get us all pissed off at each other. Faust took a stab at the russion dood now, so we are beginning to branch.

I understand your negative feelings about my country's government and only ask of you that you consider my outlook, from the inside of the country. I in turn of course understand what you are saying. I don't like some of the Bush/9.11-powered bills sent through Congress lately either, but we can always challenge the law, and I'm sure the Supreme Court would declare it unconsitutional if they deemed it to be. As for corruption in the U.S. government, we have strict laws against exchange of money from entities to spokespeople of the government, and if that's found it is punished. And how many cases of corruption have you witnessed?

Life in America is great. I cherish my right to vote, and think it absolutely essential to have an opinion on political matters at hand and current events.

I just think it would make more sense to have rules on political discussion: not as strict of void main's rules because this site is about free speech  . Something to the point of "Please refrain from political topics outside of the Political forum".

In the U.S. there is a very popular game series introduced in recent years. It's called Grand Theft Auto. Perhaps you've heard of it.

I play GTA3 and GTA: Vice City a *lot*. That says something in itself for whether I believe in censorship.

So in closing, I am sorry for any references in this post that you do not agree with, if any. I have always respected Calum's views and always will. I believe in freedom of speech and hate censorship. I love living in America, and love politics. I love debating whether the war is right, etc. I just don't like doing it here, where it is so *fierce*. I'm offended when people say my country sucks, it makes me not like them (dont flame me for being like that: i can't help it). I don't want to not like any of you. I love posting at FMS (notice I think I've posted about 90 posts in the last week, half of everything I've posted here--not because of this discussion, but because of all the fun anti-microsoft pro-linux stuff going on).

[Comedy]
I love you all
[/Comedy]

[Siplus]

hmm...i had a very long reponce i was going to post (but couldn't because my connection would timeout, i was going to post it tomorrow when i get my cable modem), but i guess solo just made a very good closing post--and i wouldn't want to disturb that closing with adding more fuel to the fire.

[Calum]

quote:Originally posted by Panos:


lol        I know you were kidding. I was just pulling your leg      

yeah man, don't take it so seriously! christ! don't you have a sense of humour?            

and to solo:
interestingly i agree with you about everything you said. the only thing i can possibly contend with you about is this:  

quote:but we can always challenge the law

why don't you then?

sorry i know it sounds like i am pissing on your bonfire after you wrapped it up so nicely, as i said i agree with everything else you said. I just think that the feeling that we are free to change our govt if we don't like it is a false sense of freedom, as it breeds apathy.

Sigh. we could go on forever like this if it were to continue.

[ June 09, 2003: Message edited by: Calum ]

[solo]

Calum: thanks. As for the law thing: eh I'm to lazy. When it hurts me I'll get pissed and try to start a movement and all that but until then just let me be the frog in slowly heating water

hehe dont take what im saying now seriously, its only lukewarm