No E3 for the Frogs

[Faust]

Siplus you were posting some of the most offensive garbage I have ever seen.  You actually admitted that you think killing dogs to teach the French a "lesson" would be a good thing.  Think about this.  Think long and hard.  I'm not even going to comment on the stupidity of the rest of your points because really it speaks for itself.  Quite frankly if this thread should be binned then your post is the reason why.

What is wrong with people voicing their concerns about the US governments actions?  We have concerns : we are exercising our freedom of speech in voicing them.  There is no problem here, unless some people either start ranting instead of talking; or if they get overly upset at others opinions.  There are good posts here, and there are troll posts.  How about we just ignore the last type?

Solo, there is nothing wrong with your country itself - but some of it's governments actions disturb me and a *lot* of other non Americans (and Americans it seems.)  Surely you can see that banning a countries journalists entry into your country because they "dared" to dissent is wrong?

[Faust]

Oh and I saw a quote a while ago which has some relevance:

 

quote:
"Participating in flame wars is like running in the special olympics - even if you win you're still retarded."

Note that that was "flame" not "discussion."

[solo]

Faust just reinforced my vote: PLEASE BIN!

[lazygamer]

Isn't it "arguing on the internet"? Could be both I suppose...

Ok the thing is, just because a thread gets a little   messed up, does that mean people gotta run in fear and cry "BIN!". Bin should be for the most pointless threads, like when a random troll starts creating various troll threads.

[Faust]

Good point.  I still haven't had my original question anwered : is there *ANYONE* here who thinks that French journalists should be baned access to America on the basis of their countries choices?

[Faust]

Oh yeah I haven't seen the news lately have the Americans found those WMD's yet?

[lazygamer]

What's WMD?

I've decided that although I want to see if there is any good responses to this thread, I'm starting to see the light about why we shouldn't talk about, let alone argue/debate about, politics at MES. It tears us apart when it gets really heated, and those tears don't heal the moment the thread is over. What would Billy want us to do eh? But it begs the question, how far do we go not debating, just because something is painful to talk about?

I actually had a response to Siplus, but for some strange reason the post just won't post, same with this other response for that computers thread. I can't figure out why. I click the Add reply, and although it acts like it's sending the data and loading, NOTHING happens and it eventually just gives up. Seeing as I've had a change of heart, it does not matter what I have to say, but the computers thread matters! Is there a known bug with post content, that prevents it from being posted? Note: I am copying and posting from wordpad, but that shouldn't make a difference...

[ June 04, 2003: Message edited by: lazygamer ]

[Pissed_Macman]

Do any mods even look in here anymore? BIN IT DAMMIT!!!

[Calum]

quote:Originally posted by Macman: HAS 1000 POSTS:
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=6909

hahaha serves em right!

that's fucking pathetic, you yanks should be ahsmaed of yourselves.

if i have ever heard a good argument for the bomb, this is it.

and for those of you still wondering, WMD are what Iraq never had, and what the USA are now saying is irrelevant.

odd because originally they said "we can't find any weapons of mass destruction in iraq, so let's tear the place up looking for them" (they should try looking for those weapons in the fucking USA, they'd damn well find them then), but now they seem to be saying "well, we still haven't found them, but who cares, we won, so let's stop looking, we are confident they are around here somewhere anyway".

The logical flaw in this is that if the US really did believe there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq it would be doing it's DAMNEDEST to find them before somebody else does. it's all PR BS.

And i won't be checking this thread again so all you jerkoff warmongering i'm-alright-so-who-cares cunts can just fuck right off before you open your sordid lard filled mouths.

[Calum]

quote:Originally posted by Solo:
Please! Some moderator kill this thread. It's unhealthy. So now we should waste time arguing about who's country is better? YOU PEOPLE BICKER LIKE CHILDREN. If you live in my country and don't like it, leave it. It's one of the human rights given to us. For those of you who are whining because you don't like America, save it for a political forum. I think the worst threat to this forum that could make it end up 'fucked' is political discussion.

I vote for thread kill.

i disagree with both of your conclusions and i posit that the only reason americans think the rest of the world hates america is because
a) they are all paranoid due to too much coffee and propaganda
b) the rest of the world does hate america

of course the important thing to note is that the world hates america, not americans. Americans only get hated by the rest of the world in passing because they do not seem to care about changing the fact that the USA is the most immature bully in the world playground. Of course all of this paragraph is lost on most americans, see reason a) for more info about why.

[Faust]

I mean jeebers they had big pictures of chemical and biological weapons, Colin Powell showed us on big photos.  I mean to me I had no idea that they were showing weapons, my untrained civilian eye only saw factories and little blotches which could have been people walking around.  But I trusted the American government to tell their own people and the rest of the world the truth.  After all it's not like they would lie to justify bombing the hell out of another country is it!

Saddam got it wrong.  You can't dictate over a populace his way for long.  As Bush shows us all, you first have to make the people *want* to be lied to.

Bah bah, let's all vote away our rights so that we feel all safe.  And in twenty years we won't care that the American government will still be treating it's citizens and the world like cattle, because it's not like we care now.  And by then it will be "normal" and only a few left wing "radicals" will stand up for rights that most Americans don't even want nor abide by.

[TheQuirk]

"My country can kick your country's ass."  :rolleyes:

[TheQuirk]

quote:Originally posted by Siplus: *Capitalist*:
couldn't hurt

Yes it would! I have a poodle!

[Siplus]

quote: Siplus you were posting some of the most offensive garbage I have ever seen. You actually admitted that you think killing dogs to teach the French a "lesson" would be a good thing.  

ever hear of "sarcasm" ?? it wouldn't hurt to take everything so serious ya moron. ya, like i'm going to go out and kill as many poodles as i can. THINK about that for a second

 

quote:I'm not even going to comment on the stupidity of the rest of your points because really it speaks for itself.

wow. by ur standards i must be stupid cause i don't see stupidity in what i stated.

 

quote:Quite frankly if this thread should be binned then your post is the reason why.

don't single me out. many people here have posted nonsence. oh, and i enjoy being offensive :-D

 

quote:What is wrong with people voicing their concerns about the US governments actions?

there is nothing wrong with voicing your opinion. it's lying that i don't like. we suffered through 8 year's of Clinton's bullshit lies, that resemble yours a lot. (didn't follow his entire presentcy, however, because i was in elementary school when he took office)

 

quote:Oh and I saw a quote a while ago which has some relevance:

quote:
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"Participating in flame wars is like running in the special olympics - even if you win you're still retarded."

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Note that that was "flame" not "discussion."

look here: http://www.geocities.com/siplus01/pictures/arg.html

 

quote:Surely you can see that banning a countries journalists entry into your country because they "dared" to dissent is wrong?

ya, we shouldn't ban them, but it's funny.

[Calum]

it's only funny if your brain cells are so few that when they meet they are surprised to see each other.


<sarcasm>


and your picture really convinces me you are right. oh yes. i am very impressed by your superior yankee reasoning. i can't think of anything to counter your well thought out points.


</sarcasm>

[ June 04, 2003: Message edited by: Calum ]