Microsoft's Shared-Source defeats Trustworthy Computing

[sime]

Well now,

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/35659.html

Old MS$ must be feeling like their between a rock and a hard place. Cant do anything right, Linux on the attack from all angles, apache wiping out IIS, more viri and trojans than you can shake a shitty stick at...

Tough shit Bill ... What goes round comes round!

The sharks are circling ... It's just a matter of time!

Later

Sime

[WMD]

Security through obscurity never works.  Yes, they can look for exploits in Open Source, but at the same time, anyone who wants to fix them can - and tell the devs about it.

[Mistshadow]

quote:Originally posted by WMD:
Security through obscurity never works.

Exactly. Come on, anybody with four active brain cells would know you can't keep the code of the most popular OS a secret forever. Get real.

 

quote:Yes, they can look for exploits in Open Source, but at the same time, anyone who wants to fix them can - and tell the devs about it.

What I love about about an open source OS is not only that, but the fact that they can't lie like crazy and say there's nothing wrong with it after the 20th security hole in it has been found.

Come to think of it, if anyone made an open source OS with even half the number of security problems as Windows they'd be the laughingstock of the whole open source community.

[Commander]

quote:Originally posted by Mistshadow:
Come to think of it, if anyone made an open source OS with even half the number of security problems as Windows they'd be the laughingstock of the whole open source community.

it seems like that harshness is what gives us the edege.  in OpenSource, no one just accepts a crappy and faulty code.

[Fett101]

quote:Originally posted by Commander - useSuse:
it seems like that harshness is what gives us the edege.  in OpenSource, no one just accepts a crappy and faulty code.

Too bad the seem to accept horrible interfaces.

[restin256]

Fluxbox is leet.

[hm_murdock]

Fluxbox is a window manager. It can't make up for poor UI design, which most OSS programs suffer from.

Stop confusing "user interface" with "appearance". A window manager is not a UI. It's a window manager. Having lots of them is NOT a benefit. It is in fact, a problem. Consistency becomes a great issue in OSS because every dude wants to re-invent the wheel.

Even when using GUI frameworks like Gtk or KDE, the programmers ignore Human Interface Guidelines. I guess they feel that they're above having to use them.

Admit it, in OSS, the end-user typically is the last thought on their minds. At least, that's what the evidence supports.

Oh well, now we have Calyptos and Calix.

You people should sit up and take notice. Regular users don't give a shit about UNIX. These two distros hide it because UNIX is bad. The typical user shouldn't ever have to interact with it.

Unix gives you genital warts.

[ErwinJ]

In his own, rather unsympathetic way, Jimmy *does* have a point.

There are a great number of people out there that are looking to make the transition away from MS. The most straightforward solution is Linux, because it doesn't require all new hardware.

GUI's like KDE and Gnome are a good, but just not good enough, yet. Installing a new program more often then not involves some file editing here and there. Which all well and good for people who like computers for their own sake, but doesn't really endear the average user.

Add to that the prevailing '1337' attitude of the hard-nosed linux users (If you don't care how exactly your computer works, you are, basically, a moron) and you can see why many people are still (justified or not) put off by Linux.

Maybe the different distros could take a cue from Lindows.com. I've tried that out and I have to say, I like my old mandrake9.1 better. But Lindows does make an effort to have the user involved in system details as little as possible, if the user doesn't want to.

If the entire Linux user and developer base, could stop gushing over how well Linux works (which it does, don't get me wrong) and stop implying you shouldn't be on a PC to begin with if you don't have the interest or the IQ to understand why Linux is so great, then maybe Linux will be able to send MSWin back to the demonic cesspool in the inner sanctum of Hell it originated from.

But if they don't MS *will* win. ANd we'll all be locked in the Matrix  

[KernelPanic]

Linux [Grolsch  Voice]It's not ready yet[/Grolsch  Voice]

[Refalm]

quote:Tux: Grolsch Voice

 :confused:

Je hebt bier en je hebt Grolsch.

[hm_murdock]

quote:In his own, rather unsympathetic way, Jimmy *does* have a point.

I typically do, but I'm an intellectual elitist, and am quite mean-spirited, and I nearly always come across like that :-D

[restin256]

Define psuedo-intellectual then.

Linux was originally designed for people who want to learn the inner-workings of their OS. Last year or so people started adopting it as their desktop systems so it's gainned more user-friendlyness. I find nothing wrong with Fluxbox or KDE/Gnome, because they're completely customizeable. For all OSS, if you don't like it, change it, and the same holds true for WM's. I think Windows' UI is extremely ugly.

I would never try using an operating system that had great UI unless I had access to how it worked. If you think that M$ made it in the market because it hid the system settings and inner workings, why aren't you using their operating systems today?