Operating Systems > Not Quite Mainstream OSes
New NeXTStep / OSX Based OS
Laukev7:
--- Quote from: Calum ---1) when has a new product ever worried about how it will affect the market? new products are supposed to attempt to glut the market and that's it.they do not usuallyworry about the touchy feely aspects of everybody having a nice timetogether because competition is not like that.
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I read what you said about corporations being greedy (with which I only partially agree), and I assume that what you just posted follows from that. But as you should know, non-profit organisations are fundamentally diffrerent from corporations, in that most of them ARE, in fact, concerned about the 'touchy feely' aspects, as illustrated by the very website where we are posting right now.
--- Quote from: hm_murdock ---Remember, saying "we want to base it on NeXT" doesn't mean "OS X clone"... OS X is a NeXT derivative, not NeXTStep itself. OS X is NeXT with the Mac UI rules applied to it. We'd take NeXT and just change its UI some to friendly it up.
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I guess I worry a bit too much, then. Still, I've seen so many great companies fall. Be inc. comes to mind.
flap:
--- Quote from: Laukev7 ---non-profit organisations are fundamentally diffrerent from corporations, in that most of them ARE, in fact, concerned about the 'touchy feely' aspects, as illustrated by the very website where we are posting right now.
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I don't understand what you mean by this.
Laukev7:
--- Quote from: flap ---I don't understand what you mean by this.
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I would have thought that you, of all people on the forum, would have understood that. I didn't elaborate on this, because I did not want to digress from the topic.
Anyway, you do agree that most non-profit organisations have a motivation of some sort, right? Whether it's advocacy, political motives, or just offering a community service, they do have a motivation. FSF, OSI, W3C, anti-Microsoft campaigns, Macintosh advocates, anarchists, communists, christians, even the PNAC, they are driven by social motives, if it's not only for money. So, in that sense, people who seek to help community rather than get paid do it because they are concerned in some way by 'touchy feely' aspects.
On the other hand, the main concern of companies is to make money. Of course, this does not necessarily mean that they are unsrupulous bastards. Corporations, despite their nature, are after all groups of human beings. Many of them do have genuine feelings and concerns for society, even if they may be wrong or disconnected from reality. And, of course, there are the hypocritical liars.
Sorry if this does not make sense to you, but I was typing this in a hurry, and I have homework to do. I have German classes on Saturday morning.
suselinux:
Wilkomen to das MES
billy_gates:
I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with laukev. I think all organisation, businesses alike are after two main things. Money and/or Power. However, that is for another topic.
JJ and I had another convo/heated debate/relentless beating (again) And we can't decide on what kind of video card support for Dagon (codename for NM Not Quartz).
I say screw the people with cards that can't support the Dagon equivilant of Quartz Extreme.
However, he wants support for old and new video cards. I don't think I can accurately support his view, so I will tell you mine. Then when he reads this he will tell you his.
I don't think we should spend extra time programming in cards and support for a CPU based Dagon. Why do that when we can spend all of our time making a GPU based Dagon? If we did this, there would be fewer bugs, fewer cards to troubloshoot, fewer possibilities for errors. It would just make everything so much simpler. And IMO, by the time this OS becomes popular (if it ever does) then all cards will be able to run Dagon Extreme.
You may ask why can some cards run it and some can't? Its because some cards only support textures that are a power of 2 in size. AKA 2, 4, 16, 32, 64, etc. And since every window in Dagon Extreme is in essence a texture, there would be major problems.
So in order to support those old cards we have to make Dagon run on the CPU, slowing everything down. Which if they person has a Rage 128, their CPU is already slow enough.
I'm not sure of all of the details when it comes to how much CPU intensive this OS will be.
In essence I stress quality over quantity. Instead of supporting 30 cards, 10 of which are old and can't run dagon extreme. We should focus our efforts on supporting 10 -15 cards really well. Sure some people will need new computers, but they NEED new computers if their system doesn't already support this OS. This will create less work for us, and fewer possible problems.
Of course in the end it comes to the devs. What do they chose to do. It is their option, they are the ones programming this bitch.
I think I'm done
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