Home web server using DSL?

[pccarguy91]

I am having some trouble setting up one of my home pc's as either a web or ftp server.  I have:

-an xp pro machine
-a windows 2003 server machine
-03 server is the domain controller, xp machine is joined to domain
-standard dsl service with dejazzd (lancaster, pa)

The xp machine is running ftp services. (firewall configured to allow this) I can reach my ftp server from any pc in the house.

We have 5 pc's in the house all ethernetted to a Linksys befsr41 home router, which in turn connects to our dsl modem.

I used a free trial from nettica.com
web page to provide dns services to my domain.

From the web (at my work) I can ping the free domain name i got from nettica. It shows the ping times out to the ip address i entered for my domain on nettica's site. I dont believe the ping is actually getting to my house.

If anyone has experience setting up a web server with dsl service, please help.

[xyle_one]

Well. Did you happen to see the name of the site you just posted at? Just asking...

Anyways. The best thing to do, especially if you are going to be opening up a machine to the world, is install Linux and use apache. Far better than using windows.

Also. Use no-ip.com to handle the dns, they are free. So is dyndns.com

Did you start IIS by the way? and did you forward port 80 to the server?

[insomnia]

quote:Originally posted by pccarguy91:

If anyone has experience setting up a web server with dsl service, please help.

This will help you:

L*A*M*P

Linux:
http://www.linuxiso.org/

Apache:
http://www.apache.org/

MySQL:
http://www.mysql.com/

PHP/Perl or Python (optional):
http://www.php.net/
http://www.perl.org/
http://www.python.org/


...and it's all free...
 

[pccarguy91]

lol....yeah i saw it. I might be the only guy on this site to admit I like both Linux and microsoft. (dont have mucy OSX experience, but im workin on it.) My third pc, redhat 9.0 crapped out, and im still looking for a donor pc to replace it.

I do like apache also, but thats not the issue here. thanks xyle_one for the free dns suggestions, ill check them out.

IIS is started, ( i believe you have to to install ftp services ). Yes, i set up port forwarding in my linksys router to forward all port 21 and 80 requests to the xp machine.

insomnia:  Supposing i did still have my redhat machine with apache on it, what would make it so much easier to have the computer found via dns?

I vageuly remember someone once telling me that you could use one of those free website services, and use perl scripting on your free website to point to your home machine?

Is this credible at all? Ive got vb experience, no perl. More detailed advice regarding the perl suggestion would be appreciated.

thanx guys

[xyle_one]

I highly recommend using Linux. Enough fanboy spamming. If you still cannot view your site, then something is wrong. Maybe your ISP blocks port 80. Many do. Change the port that your webserver listens on to 8000, that could fix it. Or it could be a firewall blocking your server from the web. What is the domain name?

I dont like windows. It just doesnt work well for me, and because I have sworn of windows, I really do not know IIS. SO I will not be able to help that much.

[Refalm]

Windows as a router/webserver is a nightmare. I've got this thick book about Windows 2000 Server, and I'm unable to find anything about really simple things like port forwarding or dmz openings.
All there is, is this vague Active Directory crap which doesn't work well if you make it too complex.

[Laukev7]

Of course, if you're a W*I*M*P, you can always try this option:

Windoze:

http://www.microsoft.com/

IIS:

http://www.microsoft.com/

MS SQL:

http://www.microsoft.com/

asP:

http://www.microsoft.com/

...and none of it is free...

 

[Refalm]

quote:Laukev7: Of course, if you're a W*I*M*P, you can always try this option

Bwahaha, good one  

[xyle_one]

quote:Originally posted by Laukev7:
WIMP

lol, very nice  

[pccarguy91]

alright i get it...windows sucks....

nice acronyms by the way....

regardless, i still believe the problem is along the lines of xyle_one's suggestions:  ports blocked, etc. and not related to which operating system i am running.

thanx for all the suggestions anyway, ill keep workin on it.

[WMD]

quote:Originally posted by Laukev7:
Of course, if you're a W*I*M*P, you can always try this option:

Windoze:

http://www.microsoft.com/

IIS:

http://www.microsoft.com/

MS SQL:

http://www.microsoft.com/

asP:

http://www.microsoft.com/

...and none of it is free...

     

Perfect!  

Anyways, I run a Windoze webserver from my house on DSL, as well.  I use port forwarding via the Windoze XP firewall.  Works perfectly.  But indeed, follow xyle's suggestion: change the server to a different port.  Try 8000, 8080, or 6346 for starters.  Then start making up random numbers.  

[xyle_one]

quote:Originally posted by pccarguy91:
alright i get it...windows sucks....

nice acronyms by the way....

regardless, i still believe the problem is along the lines of xyle_one's suggestions:  ports blocked, etc. and not related to which operating system i am running.

thanx for all the suggestions anyway, ill keep workin on it.

hehe. Well, this is an anti-microsoft site...

[Orethrius]

I speak for myself - and I believe WMD as well - when I say that you need serious help if you're actually running Win Server.

Enough with the tearing-down part, here's the building up.  Some of the more popular servers have WinXP options.  I'm running FileZilla for FTP services (built off of a pure UNIX kernel by the way), in addition to Apache (though currently disabled) for HTTP services.  Both work flawlessly on WinXP, and are excellent alternatives to the terribly bloated/buggy Microsoft server software.  This is all being run behind a D-Link DI-614+ without a hitch.

Oh, and for those of you who continually point out that this is not a Windows help forum - you're absolutely right.  However, if we're to have ANY hope of bringing these guys over to Linux - or any other OSC platform for that matter - any time soon, we're going to have to give them some alternatives to Microsoft crapware in order to prove the whole point of OSC software.  We can't win the battle if we don't help people rebel.

Edit: That being said, I would like to advocate that he switch to Linux, but there may be factors at work here (read: hostile workplace) that WILL NOT allow it.  Until such circumstances are met, we must meet these limbo users halfway.  After all, the largest revolution begins in your own backyard.
  :cool:

[ June 12, 2004: Message edited by: Midnight Candidate ]

[xyle_one]

quote:Originally posted by Midnight Candidate:

Oh, and for those of you who continually point out that this is not a Windows help forum - you're absolutely right.  However, if we're to have ANY hope of bringing these guys over to Linux - or any other OSC platform for that matter - any time soon, we're going to have to give them some alternatives to Microsoft crapware in order to prove the whole point of OSC software.  We can't win the battle if we don't help people rebel.

Edit: That being said, I would like to advocate that he switch to Linux, but there may be factors at work here (read: hostile workplace) that WILL NOT allow it.  Until such circumstances are met, we must meet these limbo users halfway.  After all, the largest revolution begins in your own backyard.
   :cool:  

[ June 12, 2004: Message edited by: Midnight Candidate ]

Not to be a dick, but anyone who comes to an anit-MS site asking for help with MS products is a waste of my time. Would you go to Windows forum to ask how to setup an FTP server on a Linux box? No. If you did, your thread would most likely be binned. Anyone here remember when a few of us were banned at windowsBBS for simply asking for opinions on Linux?

[Orethrius]

quote:Originally posted by xyle_one:

Not to be a dick, but anyone who comes to an anit-MS site asking for help with MS products is a waste of my time. Would you go to Windows forum to ask how to setup an FTP server on a Linux box? No. If you did, your thread would most likely be binned. Anyone here remember when a few of us were banned at windowsBBS for simply asking for opinions on Linux?

This is where we set ourselves apart from the jackasses running windowsBBS.  What you see as a waste of time, I see as one more potential convert.  If we do not sell people on OSC products on the platform which they are currently running - which is, quite possibly, a product of their workplace and NOT their own decision - how can we honestly expect them to switch to platforms with which they are unfamiliar?  If we don't give them OSC weapons to combat the corporate machine that is Microsoft, we cannot expect them to oppose the only software they have ever been given a chance to experience.  I'm not advocating XP, but if somebody HAS to use it, why not give them options apart from MS software for the platform?  We're supposed to be better than the opposition.  It's damn well time we lived up to that image.

Edit: This whole mentality has been a thorn in the side of the OSC community as a whole lately.  "Let's combat Microsoft with no weapons, no converts, and absolutely no help whatsoever to sway those that might provide us with 'inside information'."  Does this irritate anybody else?  The inherent problem with this thinking is the fact that when you don't provide alternatives to the existing machine, you fight a losing battle.

[ June 12, 2004: Message edited by: Midnight Candidate ]