I told you Linux was going to dominate the future...

[Crunchy(Cracked)Butter]

Well tell you what, i'll try kivio, i've got a printout of my work that i have done with Visio, also is Dia included in SuSE 8.1 by any chance?  Christmas is coming and i have an extension with this project so i might be able to do it.

With Access however its totally different, i might create it totally with my Access 2000 and then give it to the hotel.  Only 1 person is going to use it anyway, and they don't use the internet yet so what you recommend isn't needed yet.  

All this talk of alternatives, i didn't realise about StarOffice, i actually forgot it existed but since you say it has an Access type program and it is cheap...i WILL buy it and lose my MS CD's.  The only thing now would be games.

Thanks Void Main.

[voidmain]

I'm not sure if it is included with SuSe, I would imagine it is. Both Kivio and Dia are included with Red Hat. Also, I may have to retract my statement about StarOffice. It appears that they removed the Database in 6.0. It was there in 5.2 but not in 6.0, however, they have lot of database connection and management tools to utilize an external database. Sorry for giving out the wrong information!

[ December 11, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

[lazygamer]

About AMD, how do these chips actually compare to Intel? Do they fare just as good as their intel counterparts for 0ld$k00l compatibility?

[voidmain]

Some would say they are better chips than Intel. My Athlon 1600 screams and runs everything I throw at it.

[zooloo]

quote:Originally posted by void main:
Also, I may have to retract my statement about StarOffice. It appears that they removed the Database in 6.0.

[ December 11, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

Unretract the retaction.

All your database are ours.

http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/staroffice_base.html

zooloo

[Pissed_Macman]

But after Linux dominates I hope the Mac people and the Linux people don't turn on each other. That would suck.

[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by zooloo:


Unretract the retaction.

All your database are ours.

http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/staroffice_base.html

zooloo

Unfortunately I can not unretract my retraction because that is the page that caused the retraction. If you notice it never says anywhere that it includes a database. What it says even on that page is "data sources" and "data connections". It comes with the tools to connect to and manage external databases but does not include one itself. At least that's what I get from reading the documentation.

[pkd_lives]

quote:Originally posted by Macman: Mac Trekker / BoB:
But after Linux dominates I hope the Mac people and the Linux people don't turn on each other. That would suck.

You gotta remember NO MONOPOLY, man. A little argument and tension is good to keep an edge, and M$ will probably still be around in the future, so the dog will always need to be kept at heel.

[Neuro7]

I read an article somewhere about Microsoft releasing their office software for the new Mac OS X. In the article the auther claimed that MS Office   actually ran better on the Mac then under Windows!

[Neuro7]

About AMD and Intel chips, I have 2 puters one with an AMD 850 and one with an Intel 850 and I can tell a difference between the 2. The AMD boots up faster and the computer just seems to do everything just a little faster than the Intel one. Just my 2 cents worth!

[zooloo]

quote:Originally posted by void main:


Unfortunately I can not unretract my retraction because that is the page that caused the retraction.

Remain retracted.

They put it like that because StarOffice 5 saved to it's own default database.

What they are saying is that you can access your existing data(base).

You can create new ones too

zooloo    

[ December 23, 2002: Message edited by: zooloo ]

[Oversight]

The day that linux becomes mainstream is the day that computer manufacturers like Dell or Gateway put Linux on the Home PCs, Dell currently sells Red hat for their workstation line. But not Personal Computers.......YET.
But Microsoft have these guys by the balls, so its hard to say when they will.

[zooloo]

PCs will come with open source because it's a business oportunity.

Here I am thinking Windows and basic office suite (Word processor and spreadsheet)

PC  

[dbl221]

quote:Market forces are in OSSes favour.  

Thats true in the pure economics sense, but in the real world big companies have REAL control over the market place, ie they can dictate to their own customers and other companies.

It is not just Micro$haft that does this but many many big companies also.  Its a sad truth.

[zooloo]

quote:Originally posted by dbl221:


... but in the real world big companies have REAL control over the market place, ie they can dictate to their own customers and other companies.

This is true.  Some of those companies will follow OSS for their own competitive advantage.

An example of this is StarOffice/OpenOffice.org,  Sun noticed they were giving MS some $61 million per annum for licences - so they made their own software instead.

If MS dictate too much thet will lose custom not keep it.

OSS will doninate the future.

zooloo