Author Topic: Anti-TCPA movement.  (Read 3343 times)

David

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« Reply #30 on: 6 July 2002, 04:08 »
psyjax, sorry for not posting in a while, I tried to make some graphics that I thought might be good for your site but it turns out I'm shit at graphics... so you won't be getting them.

Been having a rough time lately, my fears about Palladium are making it worse... I live in the UK so what I will do in terms of direct action is write to the new Director General for Competition at the Eurpean Commission.  He has just been appointed and will take up office on the 1st of September, I will write then.  He has already warned Micro$hit about Palladium, so maybe he is a good guy.

Email me at david.is@ntlworld if there is anything I can do, and let us have a link when your site is up and running!  Can't wait to see it!

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« Reply #31 on: 6 July 2002, 12:01 »
if you want to get windows people to read it, make the tone of the site more imformative than revolutionary.

if i had more time i would work on it with you... i am behind it 100%.

also, explain it in simple terms that grandma on webtv can decipher... these are really the people that it would hurt the most.

just imagine what the world will become if they pull this over.

shit... it's probably already a done deal ::loads gun, looks around nervously::
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« Reply #32 on: 6 July 2002, 15:21 »
It might be a good idea for the site if you make the point that if people don't want email viruses and bugs on their computer, they should ditch Microsoft's products.  If you make a big deal out of that it may help to convince 'marginal' users that MS' crappy software is not harmless, but is actually dangerous to the security of their computers because of all its flaws.

I'm sure there must be a ton of articles on the net about that.

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« Reply #33 on: 7 July 2002, 02:32 »
id love to see a site dedicated to this stuff. Last thing we need is for ms and intel to tighten their strangle hold on the pc market.
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« Reply #34 on: 7 July 2002, 04:41 »
Well the key is to show them things that affects the average user the most.

Security flaws and viruses are icing on the anti-tpc cake IMO(not the cake itself), staying away from the "wrong situations" keeps a computer low on hack attacks and viri. Although security+viri is a major issue, I feel it appears as paranoia to a certain extent. Im honestly not saying that it's BS, im just saying that it's not part of your standard n00b desires or concerns.

The spyware issue is worse then security flaws and viruses, it's guranteed to come off as paranoia and be unprovable to the standard person.

What you need is to bring up the issues of compatibility(hardware wise), stability, and speed. Bloat and backwards incompatibility(software wise) are so-so, but not your main anti-Microsoft selling points.

Hmmm wait a sec, were talking about TCPA not Microsoft stuff in general. BUT, what if it could be proven(my above pointS) that Microsoft sucks to the average user about average desires. Then use this as a booster to point out "If these guys make your Windows like this, do you trust them to give you the compatible, fast and stable TCPA interface that you deserve?"

Now in reality, NO ONE deserves a TCPA, it's a flawed concept regardless of who makes it or how good it actually is. However, you must come off as being concerned for their "bang for buck" and not for Microsoft dominating the cyber world etc. In addition, security might be something that could be utilized better to the layman in anti-TCPA arguments.

Before I finish, here's a n00b pro-TCPA argument I thought up.  :D

"This may be true what you say about Wind0ze security, but with TCPA Microsoft is constantly monitoring the network. So the ball is out of my court, and in the hands of a massive team of computer security experts."
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« Reply #35 on: 7 July 2002, 12:26 »
Don't give XP any ideas lazygamer...  
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« Reply #36 on: 8 July 2002, 01:13 »
Re: lazygamer

You're right, and I can think of a few anti-Palladium arguments that should be pretty effective:

1) Palladium guarantees no viruses! - Mac and Linux are virus free already, no Palladium required.  Most computer security problems are due to massive security loopholes in MS products anyway.

2) Palladium will bring you new and more exciting multimedia web content! - But you won't be able to play mp3s, or videos, or even home videos you've uploaded from your digital video camera, or be able to make backup copies of your CDs or DVDs in case of loss or damage.  Also, 65% of your favourite web sites will disappear if Microsoft decides they are not Palladium-approved.

3) Everybody uses Microsoft! - Except the millions of users of Linux, who know that once you've tried REAL computing, you never go back to Microsoft.  IBM and Dell have both confirmed their commitment to Linux as the OS of the future - as have online retailers including Amazon.com.  Apple has also adopted UNIX as the basis of its awesome Mac OS X, which was developed with the assistance of the Open Source community (who would cease to function under the regime of Palladium).

Make no mistake, Palladium and TCPA are instruments of fascism and nothing less.  To submit to them is to submit your control over your own PC forever.  The task ahead of us is to present these facts with the most compelling evidence available, and to spread the word!

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« Reply #37 on: 8 July 2002, 10:58 »
PREACH TEH WORD BROTHA!  ;)
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« Reply #38 on: 9 July 2002, 01:37 »
Hey folks, I got very Ill since the fourth and was unable to do anything other than lay down and suck food thrugh a straw.

I actually got rushed to the ER for the first time in like ever!

Needless to say it was a pretty scary experience, so I have done little work on the site since the fourth, but Im back on it. Hopefully I'll have it up by the end of the week.

So keep posting links and other info. folks.

EDIT

Hey Calum and anyone else who want's to, can write their own thoughts on the isue. I can post them on the site as well.

But as I said, I'm not the best writter in the world, and I intend to make the site very straight forward and not to sensational or inflamatory. Just factual.

So far I think I may submit the main page as an article for the MES. It reads good as one, and with minor alterations it should work.

The working title is "TCPA/Palladium, putting a collar on Guttenberg"

[ July 08, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

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« Reply #39 on: 9 July 2002, 02:52 »
count me in

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« Reply #40 on: 9 July 2002, 03:59 »
quote:
Originally posted by psyjax:
Hey folks, I got very Ill since the fourth and was unable to do anything other than lay down and suck food thrugh a straw.

I actually got rushed to the ER for the first time in like ever!



You didn't happen to get exposed to Windows XP on or shortly before the 4th did you?
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« Reply #41 on: 9 July 2002, 18:30 »
I see no reason why not. Just write the website in Dreamweaver, or code it by hand, whatever. Drop the whole thing into your Sites folder on your iDisk and you're good to go.
20 megs should be enough for a lot of stuff.

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« Reply #42 on: 9 July 2002, 20:23 »
quote:
Originally posted by cocoamix:
I see no reason why not. Just write the website in Dreamweaver, or code it by hand, whatever. Drop the whole thing into your Sites folder on your iDisk and you're good to go.
20 megs should be enough for a lot of stuff.



I HATE Dreamweaver! GoLive all the way babay  :D .

I think I may have it up in beta review form tomorow. That is, so you guys can look it over before I submit it to search engines.

BTW, There is an excellent Mac shareware program called PageSpinner. It's only 20 bucks and is an awsome web editing utility! I recomend it to anyone, that's what I'm gonna be using anyway.
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