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Basic Programming for an utter novice.

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Kintaro:

quote:Originally posted by BadKarma:


And I would rather maintain tens of thousands of lines C++ code (which probably isn't even written by myself) then the same program in assembler.

   
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I'd rather maintain 10000 lines of Machine Code thru
the front panel switches of a PDP-7!

Well, not realy, it just came to mind!

Centurian:
Hey,

 
quote:Originally posted by X11:

I'd rather maintain 10000 lines of Machine Code thru
the front panel switches of a PDP-7!

Well, not realy, it just came to mind!
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HEHEH now that's an extremist.

Calum:
that's toptastic, folks, thanks for all that!
i know you were joking voidmain, but is it really the case that a lot of ongoing systems still use those old languages?

i do have linux, and i do know a tiny bit of html. i find what i do know to be quite straightforward so i will continue to nose into it as i go. as i say i downloaded 2 books about c++, a document by B.Kernighan about C (written in 1975, so lots of comparisons to Fortran in it!) which i am reading now. I also have a couple of java books, one i downloaded and one i actually have the book of, so i'll get into them once i have read the C books.
Also, i'll try all the stuff you guys mentioned. i reckon i will be kept going for a lo o o o o ng time.
Re: assembly language, that's the one where you enter data purely as hex numbers isn't it? (they called it machine code when i was at school) i did an introductory course in machine code, as the technological studies course i was doing reckoned it was essential to have a knowledge of what was going on with binary and machine code. I thought it was very straightforward and i liked it, but i do reckon that a lot of its limitations could be addressed, obviously that is what programming languages are for.

I'll throw myself into it then, when i can, and see what i come up with. thanks a lot for all yr input, folks.......

jtpenrod:

quote: Re: assembly language, that's the one where you enter data purely as hex numbers isn't it? (they called it machine code when i was at school)
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Not really. Assembly language uses mnemonics to stand for the actual hex code. Something like: MOV C,A (i.e. take the contents of a register called "C" and copy it to the accumulator) would be assembly. It uses these textual representations to make it easier to see what you're doing. The assembler can then take the text, parse it, and look up the corresponding machine code.
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[ October 06, 2002: Message edited by: jtpenrod ]

Calum:
that sounds incredibly sensible. maybe i should look that up pretty early in my quest for knowledge.

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