Solaris, I've TRIED to come up with the best way to reply to this without absolutely blowing you out of the water. I've TRIED to distance myself from this emotionally. The problem is that every time I TRY to do that, you come out and say something so
patently stupid that it makes me wish I could deck you. I'm as anti-Bush as the next guy, don't get me wrong, but STOP WITH THE AD HOMINEM-CIRCUMSTANTIAL ATTACKS ALREADY.
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Nope. its STILL a civil case. Its not about mass murder, or how to blow up a building or two. Eather way that case IS separate from the above and should of been treated acordingly. This, does NOT mean using that act. But then again, that act is false even if we were talking about terroists since the bush regime is somehow above said act.
I find it difficult to extricate the sheer stupidity of the above paragraph from itself, but here's MY attempt. In the United States, ANY fraud case that exceeds X number of dollars over state lines (I believe it's $100 but I could be wrong) becomes a FEDERAL CASE. It doesn't matter that it's not another Reichstag, it IS a federal crime. Don't argue with me about the United States Code of Justice; it may be rubbish, BUT IT IS FACT. Given that circumstance, put yourself in the shoes of a federal prosecutor. Are you going to take the approach that gives the defendant the best shot of being cut loose, or use the worst act in existance today to crucify him? ...and don't even get me started with "executive privilige" and the bullshit contained therein, I don't agree with it BUT IT IS FACT. Forget for a moment that this doesn't even apply here.
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By the definnition of the act itself, Bush and his faithful goones should of been charged under it long ago.
Read the United States Pieceofshit Act some time. It actually makes specific provisions to
protect the President and federal services. Knowing this,
why would the authors want to willingly persecute their sole source of income? It makes no sense. STOP BLAMING BUSH EVERY TIME THE FBI FUCKS UP. This is the MPAA's doing, the Bush Administration has little - if anything - to do with them. It's political poison to even TOUCH them these days.
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Isn't it interesting. When The U.S.A patriot act is on other people other than yourself, its ok?
Nobody ever said it's OKAY. It's far from OKAY. In fact, the Patriot Act is the single worst, most tyrannical bill passed TO DATE. What you're implying is that federal prosecutors WON'T use it, and I say you're off your nut. They'll use anything available to them, moral or not.
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However if you become the victim of this act I bet you will be singing a different tune. especially when all you are is a brown skinned muslim who had broken no laws and was an upstanding citizen.
Kudos for working the race card into all this. Then again, I'M not selling people VCDs as "DVD prereleases" over eBay, or making FULL EPISODES available for download. As much as I'm against this, and as much as I can see that he only LINKED to another site with that content, he should've seen this coming. It was a stupid move, and we can't bitch about the BUSH ADMINISTRATION persuing this (ESPECIALLY when it's the MPAA!)
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But then again, such laws are always prevalent under dictatorships. Remember the law was enacted to protect the few of the powerful and ignorant and was not ment for the protection of a civil sociaty.
I didn't vote for him. Read the function of the electoral college some day. It's outdated and outmoded and needs to be removed BADLY, but until then - WE HAVE TO WORK WITH IT. It's not like he couldn't hide behind "executive privilige" before the Patriot Act was passed. Stop blasting the bill for a provision that only reinforced EXISTING LEGISLATION.
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I expect more of these cases are out there since bush's bombing of his own trade towers
That's really a low blow, ESPECIALLY in a thread that has little - if anything - to do with Bush. Besides, Bush hasn't the brains for all this. It's all Cheney. Bush is a figurehead, nothing more. ...and before it gets through your head that Haliburton had ANYTHING to do with the WTC, know that you're out of your mind. Those buildings were financed by international investors, not any ONE person. I think the WTC disaster (be it planes or bombs or whatever) is one of the WORST things to happen to this nation.
Now whether Bush was behind it or not, I'd rather not say. Why? Because I have NO CONCLUSIVE PROOF of it. Hearsay is not proof. "Alledged subverted reports" are not proof. What I WANT is a confession from either Bush or Cheney that they KNEW this would happen, and that hasn't happened. Until then, I could say that your mother bombed the WTC and you can't prove me wrong because any of your evidence could be corrupted by your relationship with her. Take off your tinfoil hat and start considering that maybe - just maybe - Bush didn't think THIS could happen. Whether this is the Reichstag all over again, I can neither confirm nor deny.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. I can't wait till that bastard is out of office and this law is removed so democracy can be restored once again!
Amen! Voting Kerry in 2004 unless Bush manages to get a referendum in to postpone the election because of "terrorist activities." I'd LOVE nothing more than to see him do that, so we can finally hang the bastard.
