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Guys, this is seriously fucking scary
Orethrius:
quote:Originally posted by kn0wn:
Obviously this discussion IS WAY out of your league!
Expecialy if you tried....
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Kiss my ass Solaris. I TRIED to come up with a reason NOT to blow you out of the water, because you happen to hate Bush as well. The difference is that *I* can back my hatred up with *REASONS*.
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I never said that it wasn't the MPAA's fault.
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No, you only blamed Bush for every FBI screwup in the history books. What about the Red Scare, are you going to tell me that Bush was behind THAT too?
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Indeed it was, BUT ITS STILL the bush regime for putting that stupid law into practice and thus the MPAA or any other organization can abuse it. THAT was my point.
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The problem is that you strayed so far from your point that you muddled the intent. Bush didn't put that bill into play, Ashcroft did. Bush didn't fail us in legislature that week when only ONE person bothered to read beyond the title and summary, our senators did. The whole thing is a huge mess, and blaming any ONE person for it is a fallacy. EVERYONE in a major political position failed us that day, Democrat and Republican alike.
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If you don't want me to comment on it then stop posting topics and/or threads that deal with it!!!
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Not only did I *NOT* post this thread, I *DIDN'T* step into it and start blaming Bush for an FBI fuck-up! Especially considering that the Patriot Act was passed all but unanimously (one vote opposed), wouldn't you say that our government has failed us as much as Bush?
quote: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Those oh-so-witty eye rolls would get you smacked in any realtime meeting place and you know it.
[ August 02, 2004: Message edited by: Midnight Candidate ]
solarismka:
quote:Kiss my ass Solaris. I TRIED to come up with a reason NOT to blow you out of the water, because you happen to hate Bush as well.
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Calm down man!
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The difference is that *I* can back my hatred up with *REASONS*.
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So can I. Obviously you have not paid any attention to the links I have posted. I HAVE backed up my reasons!
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No, you only blamed Bush for every FBI screwup in the history books.
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No, you say I blame Bush for every FBI screwup in the history books.
I, however, do blame the CURRENT situation on HIM. Since the U.S. WAS fine before he got into power.
Key word here CURRENT. As in the CURRENT U.S. Patriot Act. That Act did not exist before his time.
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What about the Red Scare, are you going to tell me that Bush was behind THAT too?
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What About the Red Scare? You call me blaming him for everything? yet your blaming him for that nonsense?
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The problem is that you strayed so far from your point that you muddled the intent.
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Recap::
quote: complaint by our friends at the MPAA and the FBI invoked a provision of the USA Patriot Act to obtain financial records from his ISP.
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Using the act that the Bush regime passed. That was my point. Whether it be he, or his goons. Its still no exuse.
Second, your the only one here mudling the topic.
"Red Scare?" I have no idea where that came from.
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Bush didn't put that bill into play, Ashcroft did.
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Read above.
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Bush didn't fail us in legislature that week when only ONE person bothered to read beyond the title and summary,
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I'm not nick picking. Of course the senators failed BUT it was bush and his goons that put that law forth.
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our senators did.
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Read above.
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The whole thing is a huge mess, and blaming any ONE person for it is a fallacy.
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I'm not JUST blaming JUST ONE PERSON. Bush, as in his regime. Ashcroft, Rumpsphelled(sp?), Rice and powell(sp?) are just a few of his goons THAT ARE responsible.
MY POINT WAS THAT BUSH, MEANING HIM AND HIS GOONS, ARE RESPONSIBLE!
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EVERYONE in a major political position failed us that day, Democrat and Republican alike.
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Well yea, your not going to get an argumemt out of me with that I DO AGREE!!!!
I'm just stating where the patrot act came from and now organizations can take that act and abuse it. This case was a clear exsample of that abuse.
Now do you get the point?
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Not only did I *NOT* post this thread,
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You didn't post the thread but you did make a reply. So I will also reply.
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I *DIDN'T* step into it and start blaming Bush for an FBI fuck-up!
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Nope, just that "Red Scare" up there.
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Especially considering that the Patriot Act was passed all but unanimously (one vote opposed), wouldn't you say that our government has failed us as much as Bush?
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I'm not saying that they didn't I AGREE WITH YOU! I DO say that they have failed! But my POINT was who put forth the legislation in the first place. That would be him AND the people that re with him. It also gave a great exsample of an orgnization that is now abusing that law. Do you understand what I'm saying?
All I ment was that people who favour this law don't seem to see the abuse that is now taking place because of it.
the "nothing to hide" argument is completely stupid. If they don't like you, they can take that law then apply it towards you and even though you thought you had nothing to hide. They still found something that could be used under that vauge definnition in that act an thus the abuse occures.
What I am saying is that law and this mess did not just pop up in the middle of no where. I still remember when the U.S. WAS a great place and WAS the land of the free. Up untill him and his goons got into office that all changed!
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Those oh-so-witty eye rolls would get you smacked in any realtime meeting place and you know it.
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"Bring it on!"
--George W. Bush
[ August 02, 2004: Message edited by: Midnight Candidate ]
:D
hm_murdock:
Dear Solaris,
STFU
Sincerely,
The Internet
KernelPanic:
quote:Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
Dear Solaris,
STFU
Sincerely,
The Internet
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skyman8081:
quote:Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
Dear Solaris,
STFU
Sincerely,
The Internet
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