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Poll: Music Sharing or Stealing

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HibbeeBoy:

quote:Originally posted by emh:
HibbieBoy, I don't get what you're saying

So music is only good if the artist(s) have a recording contract?
[ May 20, 2003: Message edited by: emh ]
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No, that's not what I am saying. Madonna, N'Synch and the Backstreet Boys have recording contracts and they are all pish.

TheGreatPoo:

quote: Free music is available all over the internet, tons of lame assed musicians will give you their music for free, but it's crap and a waste of time and these people are just amatuers not worth wasting the bandwidth on.
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I believe you did.  In this statement you basically critisize a great majority of the Indie band population.  While I agree that some of the bands suck, many of them have a fresh new sound and are actually very good.

Recording labels are the real evil here.  They not only take much deserved money from the artist, but they also dictate, by means of contract, what the artist can and can't do (that also means write and play).  Why else do you think so many of the main stream artists sound exactly the same?

Getting back to the argument, I agree with Macman: Crazy mofo.  Technology and the way people do things is changing.  I recently read a very good article in a Sound And Vision magazine that stated  (and I am paraphrasing), "The CD is a 20 year old format.  It's also more expensive than it has ever been before.  Therefore, with the internet and newer disc formats such as the DVD, the music industry must change their focus from fighting the piracy to giving people what they want so there is no need for piracy."  In other words, record companies and the RIAA need to find ways to harness the power and flexibility of the internet and use it to their advantage.  This is already being done with subscription services but these services are expensive and offer very little to the customer above what he or she could otherwise get for free by pirating.

billy_gates:
I guess since everyone else is explaining I will explain

According to the Random House Webster College Dictionary, the second definition of "Steal" is as follows:
 
quote:to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc) without right or acknowledgement
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I would call Music a form of ideas, words, and the artists definitely deserve credit for their music (most of them anyway).  Therefore to download (appropriate) ideas, words, and credit (music) is stealing.

I guss the ultimate reason I think, and I think everyone should think downloading illegal music is stealing because of the definition of stealing.

Dei-Gratia:
A CD cost less than a penny to manufacture, and approximately $17.00 to purchase.  

For one, file sharing would be less necessary if CD's were fairly priced.  Aside from that, a musician's main income is derived from concerts and publicity.  CD's are only a small portion of an artist's paycheck (Their purpose is almost entirely promotional).

Musicians that are discovered through file-sharing networks have a greater potential to earn a fatter paycheck, because more people are likely to attend their concert.

Your average everyday Joe is not the only one benefiting from file-sharing.

Fett101:

quote:Originally posted by Dei-Gratia:
A CD cost less than a penny to manufacture, and approximately $17.00 to purchase.
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That's a poor excuse often used for any CD medium. (Video Games, Movies, Software)

You have to also pay a part of the music production, advertising, packaging, etc. etc...

That, and major retailers sell most CD's for $10-$14

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