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Poll: Music Sharing or Stealing
Laukev7:
quote: I like to think that basic rights, such as the right to help your neighbour in a way that doesn't harm anyone else, are implicit
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You are the one starting to worry me, flap. So you are trying prove a very disputed point with "implicit" laws which nobody seem to agree on? Oh, and "doesn't harm anyone else" is the whole point, and I have been arguing on that since the beginning. I noticed that you have ignored everything of what I have said on that.
quote: I never suggested anything of the sort. Under a system of free distribution, it's possible that artists would make less money.
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Less money? As much money as you make by being a charity, I suppose?
quote: On the other hand, artists lower on the scale of popularity would probably make more money.
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Care to explain how you make more money by trying to sell music that everyone else gives away? Or do I have to give a thorough explanation of why this is unlikely to work?
HibbeeBoy:
quote:Originally posted by flap:
How many times do I have to make this point before it's understood? We want the music to be free as in freedom - the issue is not whether or not the artist charges for their work (they should be able to charge $1m for it if they want, and not make it available for free themselves), but rather what people are allowed to do with the artist's work once they obtain it i.e. they should be allowed to share it freely.
There are ways that artists can make money from distributing their art while still allowing it to be copied freely e.g. selling CDs (most people still don't have the technological capability to download music), voluntary online donations etc.
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Again you are not considering the feelings of the artists, you are taking their right to control the distribution and use of their work. You do not have any divine right to dictate how an artist distributes their work. Most of the copyright laws are suspect, I agree with you. But I do not agree with your stance that you have the right to distribute their work. This seems to be what you are saying and I don't mean you specifically this time. Just my opinion.
Anyway, I'm bored with this now.
Laukev7:
quote: You are aware of how record companies screw their (less financially successful) artists, aren't you?
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Of course I am aware of it. But that does not mean that your alternative is the only or best solution.
quote: So freedom of speech only applies to functional information?
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Have you even read that paragraph? What does reproduction of art have to do with freedom of information? People are free to describe art or criticise it, or display it (as long as the displayer paid for it), or even, say, go to the mall and record music, or take pictures of a painting. But it ends when people take the original piece of art and distribute it, which is considered morally wrong (and I dare even say that it is "implicitly wrong", since you seem to like that expression so much) And would you ever consider plagiarism a right?
Laukev7:
quote: It's a shame you feel that "entitlement" comes only with the wealth necessary to buy it.
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Excuse me? Everyone is free to distribute their music anyway they like (and possibly forsake any fame or profit if they give it away). No one should be forced to practically give their works away (that is, by allowing the first person who buys their song to give it away) or, for that matter, to charge for their songs.
Please, is there a word limit or not? I am tired of posting in installments.
Faust:
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Care to explain how you make more money by trying to sell music that everyone else gives away? Or do I have to give a thorough explanation of why this is unlikely to work?
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Yeah it's disghusting how all those filthy radio pirates keep stealing music off artists. I mean if it was like advertising the artist would make some money, but it's quite obviously not.
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