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lazygamer:
I understand your skepticism voidmain, but your comments show a high degree of support for our current society. Are you one of those 40+ year old forumites, or is that Calum? Lol, I can see how those 0ld d00dz are stuck in their rocking chairs.  

What your saying Voidmain, is that the law is the law. Whether that law harms someone or helps someone doesn't matter. It doesn't matter just who exactly is getting harmed or hurt. To you, society is king and it's important to uphold most laws. Only the most extreme or crazy of laws deserve defiance.

Why have such support for our corps and our society? Didn't this society you support spawn RIAA and Microsoft?

voidmain:
You read it completely 180 degrees backwards. You said you wanted to fuck somebody up. And I said the way to really fuck them up is to stop supporting them. It's easy. If enough people get pissed off and enough people won't stand for it and enough people stop supporting them they are either going to have to change or go out of business. Which do you think they will choose? If they don't sell they don't stay in business. They will squeeze every penny out of you they can until they reach the threshold of pain. In your case, along with many others, that threshold has arrived. Now it's time for action, action that is legal.

It's called a "boycott". It's one of the variables in a capitalist system. There's no need to break the law when the masses can make a change by boycotting. You see, you have to make the commitment yourself, then you get a few friends on board to make the commitment. If enough people make the commitment things will change.

You don't have to resort to violence or breaking the existing laws. You change them as long as the majority feel as you do. If you are in the minority and you resort to violence to get your way then you are nothing more than what GeeDubya would call a terrorist. And what are we talking about here? Luxory items, not necessities. If enough people will give up their luxory items (even their illegal ones) for just a short amount of time, things can change very quickly.

So don't buy (or steal) that X-Box, don't buy (or steal) that music, don't buy (or steal) that copy of Windows. You can get by in the mean time using Linux, free music. I was in a band and we have an album out on the net, Calum has music out there, and there is a boatload of good free music out there. You never know, you might grow to like the free stuff and never want to go back even if they do lower their prices and change the laws.

[ November 26, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

Calum:
and this is why the legions of dumbasses who think pirating hurts companies will have to rethink their ideas a bit or nothing will change. They won't though as that will deprive them of their warez. pity they ddon't realise there are plenty of legitimate alternatives these days, hmm lazygamer?

flap:
Just to clarify the "anti-piracy" view here, do you think that "pirating" non-free software/music is worse, better or just as bad as paying for it?

pkd_lives:
Copying non-free stuff for personal consumption is fine - if you have the artists permission. That is legal, acceptable and there is nothing a record company or a lawyer can do about it (unless they own all rights). It is considered advertising and is fine both ethically and legally.

But with Kazaa - nah this is bullshit. I know so many people who use it, and what do they do - they download eminem and the matrix. Sorry but that is not acceptable. If you support an artist you are prepared to pay them money, if you are not prepared to pay them money then you do not like them enough, and therefore you should not support them. By consuming this material you are crowding the pantheon of artists and leaving less room for the truly talented.

It's a wake up call. The TCPA/RIAA will keep on suceeding because people do not have the balls to say yeah thats a fun song but I'm not going to listen to it because it is not a great song.

The ONLY way you will get your message across is if you stop wasting time listening to the same old same old. You have to live your own life - too many people are stuck in apathy, living their lives through other people. I get up each day and I am so happy to be alive, and my happiness has nothing to do with hollywood, AOL Time/Warner, Microsoft, etc. Whereas all those people I know who use Kazaa and the like, they live their lives through entertainment, their lives are ruled by the what did you watch last night?, what movie will you see this weekend?, what latest musician are you listening to?, and almost never do I hear the voice of thought, the voice of an individual saying there is a string quartet playing in the social center, I'm gonna check that out, as I've never really listened to a string quartet. Because they haven't got the balls.

Choose Life for fucks sake. If your happiness depends on owning every harry potter movie that gets made, and having a copy of every Linkin Park album then you, my friend, have serious problems, and your money would be better spent on a phsyciatrist.

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