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Holy shit! Tis horrible...
voidmain:
You pirate to harm, you boycott to "change". Pirating only induces more of what you call stupid laws. If you boycotted rather than pirated there would be no such thing as DRM that does nothing more than fuck over the rest of us who don't pirate. Now stop doing it before I send my thugs up there to rough you up.
[ November 26, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
pkd_lives:
When you Boycott you don't buy their product. When you pirate it can be considered advertising, someone might hear your copy and buy one. When you boycott the product stays on the shelf. The popular loving sheep out there see oh it's not selling very well, and if it is not popular it must be crap :rolleyes: .
Also boycotting stops the company - and that means they can't sell other stuff - it hits their wallet directly - because the stores send the stuff back unsold - or do not buy off them next time, because they know there is a boycott, and the stuff is just going to sit there taking up stock space.
TheGreatPoo:
I agree with Flap. When you buy a CD, just hopw much money do you think goes to the actual artist? Would you be shocked if I told you almost none!!!??? Artists make the bulk of there money off of live performances. That's why some artists that sell millions of copies of their album but do not tour, often don't make it for long.
Another point to raise is that the RIAA is not needed. They rob the consumer, they rob the artist. Filesharing is the future of music advertising but many of you fail to realize that it IS advertising!
Scenario 1) During the Napster campaign, filesharing was booming. There were millions of people sharing music all over the world. Was this hurting record sales? As a matter of fact, during the same time when Napster reached it's peak of popularity, record sales reached record highs! Why, you ask? Because filesharing=advertising. Someone downloads a song (noting that it is not as high quality as the original CD would otherwise be), likes it, goes and buys the CD. Granted, not all cases are this way but many, many are.
Scenario 2) A new independant artist wants to get his name out there to the people. He records a couple of songs and sends them out on Kazaa or Gnutella. The files spread. Some people in his area download the songs, and like them. Soon, he puts up flyers to tell people of a live show he's putting on. People come, his popularity grows. The cyle continues with more music.
To truely make music means to truely understand what you are making the music for. The answer is NOT MONEY!!!!! For those of you people out there that say musicians should get paid for makin music miss the point entirely and regard making music as a job. Most musicians today make a career out of making music and this is precisely the reason why music sucks today. No body wants to make music for the hell of makin music anymore.
hm_murdock:
I agree here. There's so much great stuff that people never hear because nobody thinks that it would sell.
I know that I'm most likely doomed to being a blue collar guy to support my music. I'm too far from the norm in wanting to do things that I consder to be "genreless music".
I think people would like it but I can neither afford to have it recorded, can't afford my own recording gear, and can't find anyone who would think of helping.
Capitalism sucks raunchy balls.
voidmain:
If Scenerio 1 is true then why are they going to such great lengths to install copy protection within the media and the players, and I believe also to be the reason for the emergence of Palladium. If people were honest and didn't "steal" there would be no need for Palladium, copy protected discs and players.
It pisses me off because if it weren't for this shit I could play my DVDs through my VCR rather than having to unplug my VRC from the TV and plug the player in directly. I could make backup copies of my media for my own *personal* use, as in an actual literal backup. Now they are coming out with Paladium and DRM built in to CDRW drives that give me real concerns if I will even be able to use Linux on any future hardware. All because people are thieves.
Scenerio 2 is good but it also makes people believe that all music can be handled this way, even if it produced and distributed under a completely different license/contract. It's sort of like Linux vendors allowing you to download a copy of their OS in hopes that you will buy a boxed set some day. This is my preferred method. But because RedHat has such a deal, don't assume that it's OK to go download an ISO containing a cracked version of XP. That's the logic people have today, it's not right.
If they want it to change they need to boycott. Pirating will only cause more activation mechanisms which costs a lot of money to implement and pisses people like me off. Boycotting will solve the problem. It's harder to boycott, it actually takes a little thought and organization. Anybody can be a common thief. Is it that hard to play by the rules? Apparently it is in today's society, so sad.
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