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Holy shit! Tis horrible...
flap:
quote:Originally posted by void main:
You pirate to harm, you boycott to "change". Pirating only induces more of what you call stupid laws. If you boycotted rather than pirated there would be no such thing as DRM that does nothing more than fuck over the rest of us who don't pirate. Now stop doing it before I send my thugs up there to rough you up.
[ November 26, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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My question is: exactly how much do you want people to boycott? Are you asking us to boycott *all* proprietary software and *all* non-free music? And, more importantly, are you asking people to not buy as well as not copy stuff?
voidmain:
I'm not asking you to boycott *anything*. I am asking for you not to pirate. I am asking for *you* to boycott if you feel strongly against something. If I agree with you I will join in your boycott. If I do not I will not. I have a personal boycott against all Microsoft products but so far 95% of the population are not with me on this yet. I hope this site levels the numbers a little more. If you have a problem with a record label or group, boycott them.
[ November 26, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
flap:
Well by definition I have 'a problem' to differing degrees with all proprietary software vendors, record labels and all other proponents of the intellectual property/copyright regime.
I just think that, in the short-term, a person does a lot more harm buying, say, a CD than downloading it. If you manage to get people to stop 'pirating' they're just going to start buying again; they're not going to look for alternatives. Perhaps not with software, but that's certainly the case with music/films.
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by flap:
Well by definition I have 'a problem' to differing degrees with all proprietary software vendors, record labels and all other proponents of the intellectual property/copyright regime.
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So because of that you believe that gives you the right to steal from them? If it's a slight problem you voice your opinion to them If it's a large problem you don't use their product.
flap:
I don't suffer from the harmful misconception that information is akin to physical property so I don't see that it's possible to "steal" it.
If you're asking me do I feel that people have the right to go against an artist/programmer's wishes and copy their data without their consent? Yes, I do. I don't, however, feel that the artist has the right to tell others what they can and can't do with a reproducable pattern of bits that they happen to have originated, once they have decided to distribute it at all.
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