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emh:

quote:Originally posted by Xyle: Mac Commando:
the only way i would pay for a service like that, is if i could download the songs to my drive, and do whatever the hell i wanted with it. meaning, i could burn it to a cd for my car, have it on my laptop, and maybe even an mp3 player. i dont want any of the bullshit licensing that goes along with it, like if i download a song, i can only listen to it on the machine it was downloaded to, unless i move the license too, which means it can only be on one machine. when i buy a cd, i want to be able to rip to my mac, throw the disc into my closet, then maybe burn it back to cd for my car. that way i have the original, and dont have to worry about it getting stolen out of my car.
i also dont want to be told how to use the music i bought. "hey, here is your new car, now remember, only drive on these roads, and please dont park it anywhere except your driveway, oh yeah, if you want people to drive with you, better buy this deluxe family package, it comes with 4 seats."
would you buy that car?
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Which was exactly what I was saying.  You'd be able to do all of this if a paying service was as flexible as the free ones are now.  I said that Press Play is a step in the right direction, but the fact that you can only download in WMA format and have a bunch of restrictions is not exactly a smart move.

xyle_one:
actually, a co-worker just downloaded pressplay and windows media player 9 (i told him no). i dont like it. it only supports wma, and you cant move the music from machine to machine. well, you can, but you have to buy a license for it. so far i think it is crap, but maybe they will make it more suitable for my tastes..

Doctor V:
File sharing, AKA piracy is the best thing to have ever happened to music.

The record labels are only the means of getting the music from the artists' music to the public.  New technology allows the public to get that music without the middleman, or label.  The labels' trade agreements have created an oligopoly that is very rich and powerful.  They will do anything to supress the technology that helps both musicians and the public.  Notice, they have not just attacked those who distrubute their copyrighted material, they have attacked all file sharing.  Its all about power and control.

 
quote:Originally said by Mr. Valenti, the president of the Motion Picture Association of America before the house Judiciary comittee
The growing and dangerous intrusion of this new technology threatens an entire industry's economic vitality and future security.  (The new technology) is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston Strangler is to the woman alone."

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This was said in 1982 about video tapes.  Think if the RIAA/MPAA got their way back then.  There would be no VCRs, and no tape recorders.  File sharing will be the video tapes of the future.  The success of VCRs and tape recorders was not the result of a boycott, it was because they became widespread too fast, and the trade unions did not have the power to stop them.  Today, with mM$'s monopoly, the RIAA just might win.  One company has the power to restrict what 90% of consumers do.  If there were competition, of course, DRM would never succeed, software providers would not offer it cause it would not be the choice of the customers, and doing so would lead to losing market share.  The same could happen with M$, but the are sitting on a 40 billion cash hoard and have 90-95% market share, it could well succeed.

Boycotting is not always the best way to stop opression.  It is almost 100% ineffective against monopolys (or oligopolys).  Because customers don't have much of a choice.  Sure, it would be great is everyone up and stopped buying computers from all couputer retailers and built their computers and installed linux just because they don't like M$, but its not going to happen.  It would also be great if they just up and stopped buying CDs, and stopped listening to the radio (controlled by RIAA), but that too will not happen.  Most boycotts are ineffective.  In India, it was illegal to make salt from the ocean.  The people could just have boycotted salt until the British changed the laws.  It might have taken forever too.  But, no, instead they all simply decided to break the law because the law did not serve the public, just special interest.  And that worked.  Furthermore it would be very hard to get enough public support to actually make a music boycott work with how much influence the media has over people's minds.  No, this war will not be won with a boycott.  It will be won by hackers and by the public's outright disregard for opressive laws.

[ November 26, 2002: Message edited by: Comrade Doctor V: Linux Pusher ]

lazygamer:
YAY! Doctor r0x0rz!  

cahult:
Coorect me if I

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