but of course your right

[BIGIRONNUTS]

but of course your right,lets let the new boy see whos in charge,all i wanted to know is some questions about an article i read by the admins on microsoft opps i mean that computer company that ya carnt say even though i joined a microsuck hmmm go figure,any way its all about how the forenics can get in side your computer and find all sorts of information,is this subject allowed for debate cause id like to know how and where they can look to find microsofts deep hidden files on a xp pro set up,plz not to be binned again as there a so many vague questions to be answered.i just think there must be an easy way of getting this info as the forensics can do it ,it must be there

[skyman8081]

Can you speak english?

[bedouin]

Don't be a jackass.  I think it's cool he's using this forum to sharpen his English skills.  He just wants to know how the "Microsoft's Really Hidden Files" article applies to XP, the answer to which I don't know or I would answer.

BIGIRONNUTS, You should work on using punctuation --- like when and where it's necessary.  I think this would help you organize your thoughts so everyone can understand you better.

[BIGIRONNUTS]

THANKS BEDOUIN,its true im not very good at spelling or english,and no offence was taken,its because i rush when ma thoughts come through and im trying to type it down as as i can.Its very hard to get any information on my subject,all they seem to do is pick at pepole,what a sad way to live your only life.there a questions to be answered about the inner workings of a computer,deep down in the guts of it and im fasinated by it ,the stuff many pepole dont even know about ,so all im doin is askin questions even though its hard to find people who will give you an answer

                            cheers

[Calum]

perhaps bedouin can post translations after bigironnuts' posts, i too find your posts a bit hard to understand, nuts.

[BIGIRONNUTS]

Who Gives A Shit

[Orethrius]

*sigh*

Okay, I've seen this topic numerous times on numerous sites, and I'm only going to answer it once here.  All later posts can refer back to this, because I'm not going to waste my bloody precious time answering everyone who chooses to ignore the follow-up posts to the article named.

XP's "hidden" files are kept in per-user directories.  If you left them in the OS default installation locations, they can be found under C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\content.ie5\ and C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\History\history.ie5\ .  Otherwise, they'll be in that same location under whichever drive/partition you've decided to keep them.

If you're referring to items "deleted" from the Recycle Bin, it should be noted that the data isn't actually deleted - only the drive allocated space is marked as available.  This is the same on ANY OS on the market today, not just Windows.  The data will be unrecoverable once it is overwritten with another file.  Until that time, Undelete or any similar tool can easily recover the files from the drive's space.

The best way to permanently delete files is to "wipe" them from the drive space, typically DoD spec should be sufficient.  There are a number of utilities out there that will do this for you, just Google for them or check out Download.com (warning: they've been known to unwittingly distribute worm-ridden files in the past, so be careful there).  HandyArchive.com seems to have a good list of free disk wipe and undelete tools, but steer clear of the software in the ads.

In the end, however, it should be noted that the only TRULY SECURE method of deletion is to remove the drive from your computer, separate out the physical platters, run a magnet over them, then dispose of them in the fireplace or steamroll them into a landfill.  This ensures that nobody can run a residual scan at a later date to recover ANYTHING from the drive, and is used by many defense contracts to keep their old drives from being compromised.  I'm guessing the wipe is about as secure as you need your drive to be.  

:cool:

[MrX]

a normal magnet or even a super strong hdd magnet wont do anything to the hdd to destroy it. you need a special machine that you put the hdd in and it will pulse like a 300guass strength magnetic beam and destroy it.

taking a butane torch and applying it to all platters will do (make sure to shove the flame in between them)

another great way is to drill a hole thru the hdd, and you will go thru all the platters.

and hdd is like the layers or the eaths crust. each one goes back in time. that's why the hdd can be recovered up to 50 times deep, or 50 rewrites. (but that's with an electron microscope)

overwriting your files about 2 or 3 times are plenty sufficient even for the experts. this is the best shredder to get:

http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system/shred.htm

and there really is no point in shreding, or even doing those fun destructive activities, unless you know somebody could recover some info and get you in trouble, or steal your credit numbers.

Mr X

[Calum]

Who Gives A Shit

are you talking to me, asshole?

all i said was that you are unintelligible, and you reply with this idiocy? if you don't give a shit that i can't understand your confusing jibberish, then don't post it here in the first place.

idiot.

[MrX]

[enigma_01]

LoL feel the Love.. :p

Chucking the harddisk out a 4th story windows would be cheaper and quicker.

As would stuffing it in a microwave on high for 5 minutes and running like hell.. :rolleyes:

[solemnwarning]

or just set fire to the drive :rolleyes:

[Refalm]

Don't be a jackass.  I think it's cool he's using this forum to sharpen his English skills.  He just wants to know how the "Microsoft's Really Hidden Files" article applies to XP, the answer to which I don't know or I would answer.

BIGIRONNUTS, You should work on using punctuation --- like when and where it's necessary.  I think this would help you organize your thoughts so everyone can understand you better.

 I used this forum and Calum to sharpen mine

[iMacThere4iAm]

There's a walkthrough for fragmenting and partitioning your HD here:
http://members.aol.com/spoons1000/break/
 
Note that fragmenting is very different to DEfragmenting!:p

[Kintaro]

Mr X, You far fetched barsted, you make my diagnosed paranoia look like a piss in a park, stop watching scifi and reading crazy shit man, or get some wonderful medications.

Three ways to fix harddisk issues...
A) Get a blowtorch and heat the surface all around, heat kills magnetism.
B) Place the harddisk in a Kiln.
C) Throw it down a fucking volcano.

All these will render a disk unreadable to Microsoft, The NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS, ATF, The Cathloc Church, Mormons, KGB, The French, Linus Torvalds, and Fucking Aliens.

Better yet, use cryptoloop or another one of the million AES enabled options out there, that will make your disk unreadable without destroying it.

My advice to certain members...
a) Slow Down.
b) Get off the Crack.
c) Don't read about physics while on Acid.
d) Slow Down.
e) And in one word: Practicality.