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How to make your Windows machine more stable and secure
muzzy:
Let's see. You were using IE. Unpatched IE? And you were going to some warez sites, which are known to contain malicious stuff. Or did you think that sites which are open about illegal activity would be there just to serve you, out of goodness, paying all that bandwidth out of their own pockets to fight the system?
So, now you've fucked your system by doing something stupid. Weren't you a firefox user, though? Oh, so it wasn't your computer? That's really responsible of you, trashing other people's systems and then blaming it on the OS. You could've at least turned high security settings on before going to a known-hostile site, with a likely vulnerable system.
Anything else?
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: MrX ---this post has more than 765 views. what the internet world wants is how to make their shitty windowze computer more stable and secure. because a:
it is not stable
b:
it is incredibly insecure.
there. :mad:
Mr X :beos: :beos:
--- End quote ---
LOL tell people how to fix their Windows problems - that's really going to encourage them to convert to Linux, BeOS, BSD, MacOS etc.
:tux: :beos: :bsd: :macos:
jtpenrod:
or is it link it statically? i am no genius when it comes to this...
Compiling is simply preparing *.o (object files) that don't really do anything until you link them into an executable. So it's static linking, which brings into the executable the actual library code instead of simply adding remote calls to library routines.
This is actually done as part of the install process for the likes of "linux from scratch" (an extreme method of installing and maintaining linux that a few brave souls go for), they compile everything from source, statically, to make a bare bones system, then use that system to recompile another entire system so they can get rid of the static one (i think)
Yuppers, that's how it's done. The whole point of the static linking is to create a basic toolchain that's independent of the header files that are on the system that does the initial toolchain compiling. Though this is not strictly necessary, it does result in a new Linux system that's not a derivative of another distro.
Definitely not for the impatient and/or faint-hearted.
MrX:
muzzy:
oh- i forgot to say that i was using zonealarm AND firefox.
i was quite 'fluxmoxied' to notice the strange new processes running in the backround after my first reboot after installing xp. thank goodness for Security Task Manager- it has saved my butt many times.
my usual routing for a 'windows install is'
download zonealarm. download firefox. everything else.
Mr X :beos: :beos:
muzzy:
Then how the heck did you get that malware? I'd like a video prepared of this kind of experience, to show exactly what the user does, so I could see that nothing funny is done.
Oh, ofcourse, unless you install XP in pre-SP2 state, then get on the internet. This is why microsoft has been shipping out SP2 CDs for free. It's damn necessary, unless you're going to enable the windows builtin firewall before connecting to the net.
This whole thing reminds me of incident with linux tcp/ip stack several years ago. There was this fragmentation attack which could remotely crash the kernel, and most linux users weren't running any sort of firewall. They were loudly stating that linux doesn't need firewall because it's secure. Well, how will you patch your system if you can only get the patch from the net, and the network code is vulnerable? A friend of mine had to use another system to download the patch as people were flooding his ip with the attack. When something like this happens, there just aren't any beautiful solutions to it. The default XP pre-SP2 installation happens to be insecure, so you'd better get a slipstreamed installation CD prepared in case you need to reinstall, or a real hardware firewall. Otherwise, you're going to have to enable the damn firewall before you patch, and spend some quality time downloading SP2 right after installation.
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