OpenBSD Kicks Fucking Arse

[WMD]

The focus in the community is building and using a stable/secure/powerfull UNIX operating system - not destroying Microsoft, or freeing all of the software in the world.

"I didn't create Linux to destroy Microsoft.  That will just be a fortunate side effect." - Linus Torvalds.

Don't confuse the Linux community with the anti-Microsoft community.  This site is the latter...and you will notice many Apple, etc. fans.  Go to a site like LinuxQuestions and you won't find much anti-Microsoft stuff...some, but not much.  The reason the two seem to overlap is because currently, Linux appears to be the path of least resistance for the anti-MS group to spread something else.

Also, don't confuse the Free Software group with the Linux group.  They were around long before Linux was (1984 vs. 1991).  Many want to focus on the HURD (longest vaporware ever, btw: 1989-present).  The reason for the apparent overlap is the same as above: path of least resistance.

[Aloone_Jonez]

Well BSD is made by more intelligent people than Linux. Yes I don't have a problem with Linux it's cool for newbs, but if I want to learn UNIX I think I'll go for something more hardcode, secure and stable.

Sorry about this post I was drunk and I'd just been brainwashed by a BSD fanboy. :o

[toadlife]

the very fact that you bill the above as a bonus kind of illustrates my meaning! :-D

If you had never labeled the BSD community as elitist, I wouldn't have bothered to mention that.

We've had a discussion or two on the board about BSD advocacy and the elitist label placed on the BSD community, and the general concensus is that sites like this are not a good thing - even if we might agree in part with the message.

[Jenda]

I completely agree with WMD.
I'd like to add that an OS should not be judged by it's user base. What bullshit. The fact that Linux is trying to be accessible to everyone is a GOOD thing. We (or "you") should not try to make any operating system an exclusive thing for the more technical people. NO ONE SHOULD BE FORCED TO USE MICROSOFT. That is my point there. If Linux won't accept the lowly, who will?

[toadlife]

The user base is only one of many things I like about BSD over Linux. The slower development cycle, the general consistency of everything (even accross the different BSD's), and the superior documentation are the techical reasons for me choosing BSD. The ports collection is another thing that BSD have that make using BSD such a pleasure. Various Linux distros ( I think Gentoo was the first with their 'portage' system) have caught onto this, and implimented their own version of the BSD ports collection.

[BobTheHob]

I have been using BSD variants as my primary OS for a long time now, and i have to agree about OpenBSD kicking ass. Although i like FreeBSD alot better, most BSD variants have specialtys, ie: OpenBSD = fucking uber security, FreeBSD = uber network capabilities, NetBSD = uber number of platforms supported. I would be willing to bet that OpenBSD is about as secure as an OS as your going to find on the x86 platform, and on most other platforms as well.

Heres an excerpt from this page, this is to show the diffrence in encryption strength between FreeBSD MD5, OpenBSD blowfish, and Kerberos which a common encryption method on Windoze server OS's

"Benchmarking: FreeBSD MD5 [32/32]... DONE
Raw:   4373 c/s real, 4417 c/s virtual

   Benchmarking: OpenBSD Blowfish (x32) [32/32]... DONE
Raw:   342 c/s real, 346 c/s virtual

   Benchmarking: Kerberos AFS DES [48/64 4K MMX]... DONE
Short:   162764 c/s real, 164408 c/s virtual
Long:   436838 c/s real, 441250 c/s virtual"


 c/s = "characters a second"
notice how much faster kerberos can be cracked, also notice just how few characters a sec can be cycled on OpenBSD encryption