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Microsoft Will Virtualise Linux
« on: 21 April 2005, 19:05 »
http://www.linux.org/news/2005/04/21/0009.html

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Microsoft plans to take a hard-charge at the burgeoning market for computer virtualization, including offering greater Linux compatibility, its chief executive said today.

Amid jokes about cooperating with rivals such as Sun Microsystems , Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said the company would make serious investments in, and open up, its Virtual Server 2005 product to run on non-Windows machines.
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Re: Microsoft Will Virualize Linux
« Reply #1 on: 21 April 2005, 23:20 »
Microsoft has already two open source projects running already, and they have some sort of cooperation with Sun Microsystems. And their .NET strategy is supposed to be all open (not fully, since it isn't open source).

So I guess this was coming. The question here is: who in his right mind would run an expensive Microsoft product on Linux?

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Re: Microsoft Will Virualize Linux
« Reply #2 on: 22 April 2005, 03:26 »
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The question here is: who in his right mind would run an expensive Microsoft product on Linux?

Someone who's convinced that Cron, Chkrootkit, and IPtables just aren't security enough.
Don't laugh, we'll hear no end about this kind of crap once new vulnerabilities are encountered in Winlinneo Product Server 2005 revision 5000.04.21.

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Re: Microsoft Will Virualize Linux
« Reply #3 on: 22 April 2005, 06:50 »
Well running an expensive Microsoft product on Linux could have its benefits. Such as being able to run the .NET framework properly. Unfortunatly Mono isn't fully developed yet and lacks a lot of features.

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Re: Microsoft Will Virualize Linux
« Reply #4 on: 22 April 2005, 18:17 »
this is better than a lot of microsoft plans, and i'll tell you why:

competition.

i still uphold the cathedral/bazaar model, but i also think that if microsoft and others are providing competing products that are cross platform, it will no longer be a case of "*ix + apache versus ms windows 2003 server", because now, you can choose your server's system, independently of the software running on it. This does drive development.

The down side is of course that microsoft knows they cannot win this battle (cathedral & bazaar model again) and so they will probably use their usual tactics of using a huge advertising/propaganda campaign to attempt to wipe out the competition using marketing rather than any real performance, security, stability or even price comparisons, and once they have done this they can set their own agenda regarding development schedules, bugfix releases and forced upgrades.

we shall see....
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Re: Microsoft Will Virualize Linux
« Reply #5 on: 23 April 2005, 20:07 »
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Well running an expensive Microsoft product on Linux could have its benefits. Such as being able to run the .NET framework properly. Unfortunatly Mono isn't fully developed yet and lacks a lot of features.

What's the benefit of running Assimilate .NET anyway, other that C# and ASP?

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Re: Microsoft Will Virualize Linux
« Reply #6 on: 24 April 2005, 02:12 »
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What's the benefit of running Assimilate .NET anyway, other that C# and ASP?


I'm confused Refalm, what do you mean?
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Re: Microsoft Will Virualize Linux
« Reply #7 on: 24 April 2005, 14:07 »
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I'm confused Refalm, what do you mean?

What's is the benefit of implementing the .NET framework into Linux, other than the ability to run ASP and C#?

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Re: Microsoft Will Virualize Linux
« Reply #8 on: 24 April 2005, 22:32 »
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What's is the benefit of implementing the .NET framework into Linux, other than the ability to run ASP and C#?


.NET is not abour C sharp, but about Distributed Apllications.
It has the potential to be the killer app of the next decade if the multi-platform projects like GNU Mono work, that is.

Yes savour this moment, I am commending Microsoft for a good idea.
(Whether it all pans out well is a diffent matter :))
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Re: Microsoft Will Virualize Linux
« Reply #9 on: 28 April 2005, 05:35 »
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.NET is not abour C sharp, but about Distributed Apllications.
It has the potential to be the killer app of the next decade if the multi-platform projects like GNU Mono work, that is.

Yes savour this moment, I am commending Microsoft for a good idea.
(Whether it all pans out well is a diffent matter :))


But they won't work. Meaning this will be a whole waste of time.
I'm often asked why I hate Microsoft - "What did they ever do to you?". Well, I'll tell you. They made dodgy programs and standards which have wasted hundreds of hours of my time involving lost work in crashes and stupidity.

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Re: Microsoft Will Virualize Linux
« Reply #10 on: 28 April 2005, 23:33 »
So .NET is basically a JAVA rip-off? Is is it more a Novell ZenWORKS rip-off?

Anyway, I haven't really enjoyed learning C# (probably due to the crappy teacher anyway), and from that experience I'm backward about .NET.
The XML integration they've done looks good though.

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Re: Microsoft Will Virualize Linux
« Reply #11 on: 28 April 2005, 23:57 »
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Microsoft Will Virtualize Linux

*looks at VMWare*

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