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muzzy:
Ah, now it's correct. Yes, I indeed do think so. And I don't mean ignorant about , but rather ignorant about how Windows works and how to use it. This isn't exactly a prejudice, but rather a hypothesis. So far, the gathered data suggests it, and I haven't found many instances to the opposite. I can't remember where I said that, exactly, but I suppose I should've said "majority of", or something similar.

As an analogy, a scientist could make a hypothesis about genetics of people with certain skin color. For example, a scientist might notice that some medicine fails to work more often for people with asian origin than the rest of population, and then makes a hypothesis that asians tend to have different kind of brain chemistry than the rest of us. While this example is completely made up, this kind of stuff can happen, and definitely people from different origins have different kind of body build in many other ways than just skin color. And a lot of the time, some properties are going to correlate with skin color. Thus, suggesting that certain skin color has correlation to other, favorable or unfavorable property, is not necessarily racistic, although without data to show anything, it likely is :)

What comes to windows users, I've noticed that people who can use windows don't tend to hate it, and people who hate it don't tend to know what they're doing. There are exceptions, but knowledgeable windows users who don't like the system, typically have a very specific reasons. They don't hate the system, they just find it unfitting for their needs. Thus, only ignorant tend to hate windows, and although not all ignorant users hate windows, definitely almost all windows haters appear ignorant to how windows works. This is based on my experiences about windows users, and thus I've made my hypothesis. I have a solid reasoning for why I hold my opinion, so it's not prejudice.

This is like dwarves complaining in amusement parks about the "must be this tall to ride" restrictions and how they're soooo indiscriminating, without realizing that they're for safety reasons and the rides aren't designed for people shorter than the limit. It's not prejudice, it's just how it is.

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: muzzy ---What comes to windows users, I've noticed that people who can use windows don't tend to hate it
--- End quote ---
Alot of 'em don't know any better.
There's so many million insecure and unstable Windows systems out there, and people are using them. Do they know that there are alternatives? Some of them, yes. And some of them think all the alternatives are "too hard", even before trying them.


--- Quote from: muzzy ---and people who hate it don't tend to know what they're doing
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I disagree. I'd say it's more the people who are confident with Windows, and the computer, that start to hate it. The educated folk. They eventually learn about the alternatives, learn how to use them, and then they realise that Windows really was a joke the whole time.

muzzy:
That's just the beginning of the learning curve. The alternatives are often easier to learn. I used to hate windows, too, during win-9x times. I used linux for quite a while back then. However, the NT series changed me, as I realized how the design really worked. The default installations are quite messy, but the core OS is just absolutely kickass. The windows native kernel wins linux any day, and the win32 subsystem wins xfree any day.

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: muzzy ---That's just the beginning of the learning curve. The alternatives are often easier to learn.
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I disagree ... WTF? Alot of Windows users barely get past installing the alternatives.

Which is more user-friendly in your opinion muzzy, Windows or "the alternatives" (you may list as many as you like)?

And what are your thoughts on this:

--- Quote from: http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/winstupid/winstupid2.php ---Unix stores the smarts in the user; Windows stores the smarts in the OS.
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Might wanna read the rest of that rant (and the rest on that site) if ya like, it's frikkin' class.

Canadian Lover:
Has muzzy become the next Great_Satan?

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