And And I turn to thee, for Ubuntu has failed me...

[Jenda]

Or should I say, the Ubuntu community.
I have trouble installing my friend's graphics card. He has an integrated gc, using the i810 chipset.
Visual effects in Totem are choppy, and a few games as well (eg chromium). Even in text mode, namely during instalation, most of the screen locked and all that was happening was what looked like multiple small colorful instances of the B&W text on the top edge of the screen. This might not be linked to the G.C., though.

Any ideas?

[edit:] having problems installing = ain't got a clue - what to do - and if it weren't for you - oh, what would i dooo...

[piratePenguin]

Sounds bad..
What about booting a livecd onto that comp. like Knoppix or the Ubuntu livecd even?

[Aloone_Jonez]

What graphics card?

You said i810 chipset, what vendor?

[piratePenguin]

Just searched the Ubuntu site "i810" and some hopefully-useful stuff came up:
if it's an eMachine:
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesDesktops/view?searchterm=i810
"Video not accelerated out of the box. Serial ports untested. Power management untested."

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration/view?searchterm=i810 says:
"  If the log suggests that any particular option may help (e.g. i810 suggests that Option "DisplayInfo?" "FALSE" might prevent hangs), try that."
So you could disable DisplayInfo if/when it works.

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsFujitsu/view?searchterm=i810 says about the "Fujitsu Siemens Amilo L1300":
"  Graphics works as 'i810' but in 1024x768 mode only. Things appear widened/stretched. Compiling Intel's "updated driver" to the thing had some glitches (see here) but did seem to pump up speed. Even with the updated driver, 1280x800 is still a dream.. (Intel says, 1280x800 is currently not supported in Linux bohoo.."

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell/view?searchterm=i810 has alot of stuff about laptops and the i810 is in it a bit (it has some issues, check it out).


Hope some of this helps.

[BobTheHob]

I remember having a P3 computer with that chipset 4-5 years ago, I remember it not working with XFree86, I also remember buying a Voodoo3 for it.

[Jenda]

Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by My friend's computer
             0000:00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
        Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4332
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
        Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
        Memory at ffa80000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
        Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
                         
         is what the computer said, and therefore all I know. The Ubuntu people (i.e. one of them) said that this means it's a i810 chipset.

 

   Sounds bad..
 What about booting a livecd onto that comp. like Knoppix or the Ubuntu livecd even?

How would that help?

 

   I remember having a P3 computer with that chipset 4-5 years ago, I remember it not working with XFree86, I also remember buying a Voodoo3 for it.

I remember that poor guy switching to Ubuntu hoping for a better life, and now this...

[mobrien_12]

The i810 chipset is an Intel video chipset.  It is used for integrated video on Intel-chipset mainboards.

I actually like the i810.  I've used it with Linux and Windows before.  It's not the most powerful 3d chipset but it's ok, and it has nice 2d performance.  One of the things I like most about it was the fact that it works well with Linux, and has open source, hardware-accelerated, OpenGL 3D drivers with Mesa that are included in the linux kernel and XF86/X.org, so it works right out of the box (unlike Nvidia and ATI cards).  

However, the i810 requires TWO kernel modules to function.  

1) agpgart must be loaded (modprobe agpgart) because the chipset only has a tiny amount of dedicated graphics RAM that can support only very basic video modes.  It actually uses system RAM as video RAM for normal video modes by way of agpgart.

2) i810 must be loaded (modprobe i810) for the hardware acceleration to work.  Otherwise the OpenGL rendering will just be software (very slow).

[Kintaro]

Yes, mobrien is right. I have an Intel 810 in the box three feet to the right of my head. It worked great in Red-Hat Linux, I have not tried N00buntu Linux however.

[piratePenguin]

How would that help?

To see if it is an ubuntu problem, and, now, it looks like it is. So don't bother with the livecds.

[Jenda]

However, the i810 requires TWO kernel modules to function.  

1) agpgart must be loaded (modprobe agpgart) because the chipset only has a tiny amount of dedicated graphics RAM that can support only very basic video modes. It actually uses system RAM as video RAM for normal video modes by way of agpgart.

2) i810 must be loaded (modprobe i810) for the hardware acceleration to work. Otherwise the OpenGL rendering will just be software (very slow).

OK, I'll try this. Thank you.

 

I have not tried N00buntu Linux however.

You should. It's great. And thanks for renaming it... I still prefer the old name, though.

[WMD]

Haha, the i810.  Just find him an old GeForce 2/3, for crying out loud.  Onboard video is a joke in itself.

[Jenda]

Haha, the i810.  Just find him an old GeForce 2/3, for crying out loud.  Onboard video is a joke in itself.

 I'd love to, but it's not that easy - I am only here in Canada for twenty six more days. Going home...

BTW, I still didn't have a chance to try all this out, because I didn't go over to his place yet. THANK YOU for the help, you guys are by far the most helpful on-line community I found... (I tried Void Main's and the Ubuntu fora)

[Jenda]

OK. I finally got to doing this and it does seem to have helped. Is there a way to know if a graphics card is installed or functioning?

[Siplus]

i usually test my video cards by seeing if something shows on the monitor :-p

do a glxgears test to see how it is performing

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# glxgears


Usually my nVida Geforce 4 TI 4200 will get around 200/300 FPS with the open source nvidia driver, and 3000+ with the nvidia driver

[Refalm]

i usually test my video cards by seeing if something shows on the monitor :-p

do a glxgears test to see how it is performing

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# glxgears


Usually my nVida Geforce 4 TI 4200 will get around 200/300 FPS with the open source nvidia driver, and 3000+ with the nvidia driver

The first thing I do in Linux is installing the nvidia driver (for both my videocard and internal audio).
It's great that there are open source drivers, but I want to play some games already.