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Xenoran:
As far as there not being any Windows users with common sense, I do beleive they are rare, but I do not beleive they are extinct yet. They are simply forced into hiding by the mass hordes of Bill Gates worshipers and AOL-using, virus-breeding and Gateway-buying avarage idiot users. 'Tis a very bad situation... their stupdity spreads faster than the plague and the only cure, knowledge, is becomming burried in the massive piles of waste created by the idiots.

VoidMan:
Yes, I beleive the GIF format was one of the major formats Animation Shop was built around but from past experiences, I have been able to manipulate AVIs in it. Unfortunately, I'm on my laptop right now and I don't have a copy of it on hand to see if it can infact save to MPEG. But in the end, I don't really care what a product was BUILT to do, I care what it CAN do.

Xenoran:

quote:I use Win 2k and Linux. 1 WU in Seti@Home took 9 hours in linux and 43 in Windows.... And windows only did it when it was at idle. Linux was playing MP3's Surfing and other things. In fact even compiling Kernels.
Whats with that eh?
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Since I'm not a programmmer, I honestly can't say for sure but I would assume that it is an issue with how both versions are programmed. The Linux version is probably programmed to actually use ALL idle CPU cylces while the Windows version is programmed to only activate itself when the system is completely idle, much like a screensaver.

 
quote:You sound like you should be using Linux....
Linux is Open Linux is free.
With Linux you can do more than Windows if you know
how. Windows you cant. Have you used Linux for more than 5 miniutes before.
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I like the idea behind Linux and all OpenSource software for that matter. It is the one form of software that can't be polluted or influenced by various corporations like much of the other software out there. As for my Linux experience, I've used it for a few weeks and I will be installing it on my secondary system once I have my LAN back in one peice (I'm going on a trip out of state in about 2 hours and I sent some of my systems ahead of me). The current versions I'm considering are Mandrake 8.2, RedHat 7.3 and SuSE 8.0.

There really isn't one huge reason that's keeping me away from Linux, it's a bunch of small ones... However, the main two that are keeping me away is the speed of KDE and the lack of Linux versions of my most used applications. One thing I'll admit is that when it comes to computing, I am stubborn. I know there are a lot of alternatives to most of my applications on Linux, but I've never really been happy choosing any alternatives when I already like the software I'm using. Another major issue is the lack of customizability on KDE and just the general flow of it. I have dual monitors going on my main system, I've significantly customized the XP GUI, adding a new skin and adjusting various aspects of it, It's what I'm used to and I've been unable to re-create that in KDE. Technologically, Linux can deliver much of what I want but as far as actual physical use goes, it's like a shoe that's the right size, but just doesn't quite feel right.

I think Linux has come very far for what it's worth, and has some excellent uses (and users), but in the end, there is no way to build something that every single user will be happy with and at this point, I simply beleive that Linux needs to come further (particularly in the GUI department) before I can seriously consider the prospect of switching to it from Windows.

And just for the record, I have tried Wine and several other GUIs. Of all the GUIs, KDE looks the most promising at the moment for my uses and as far as Wine goes, it is definately a step in the right direction and an excellent application but quite honestly I don't see the point in using it when I have the ability to run those Windows applications in their native enviroment with greater speed and compatibility.

[ June 01, 2002: Message edited by: Vincent ]

voidmain:
Hmmmm, didn't think I would ever hear anyone say KDE isn't customizable. In it's source form it's infinitely customizable, but even in binary form it's far more customizable than any version of Win, even KDE 2.x. I believe the shoe analogy. It took me a few months to begin to see the light with UNIX (but that was over 10 years ago). Once I got over the initial shock it's been non-stop learning and enjoyment over the power at your fingertips.

Master Windu:

quote:Another major issue is the lack of customizability on KDE and just the general flow of it. I have dual monitors going on my main system, I've significantly customized the XP GUI, adding a new skin and adjusting various aspects of it, It's what I'm used to and I've been unable to re-create that in KDE
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You can customize KDE, GNOME, and pretty much any X Windows based environment. I think your problem mainly lies in the fact that you don't know a whole lot about programming, nor do you feel the need to dive into the unknown (a big problem with a lot of "tech" people...I am not singling you out.)  Linux was written in C, whereas most "customizable" components of $hitblows were written in BASIC. I don't need to reiterate on the numerous rants people have made on this board regarding $hitblows' vunerabilities, but that is the basis of the whole idea.  Linux, and UNIX, were written with programmers in mind. $hitblows was created for the average drone who lacks all querilating traits of a human being (ininitative, motivation, a willingness to learn.) Microsoft has fed and breeded of this premise, hence the "dot com" explosion on the mid-nineties. But now, with the unweilding influx of this new migration, many of these "tech people" are going to soon be without a job due to their lack of alternative exposure, and their knowledge of the inner-workings of alternative systems. IIS and .Net will get you nowhere in ten years. And, thank God, that reneck in Louisiana won't be Yee-Hawing anymore over his web-page that he made for his towing company with Front Page.

[ June 01, 2002: Message edited by: Master Windu ]

ahri:
Vincent, something your philosophy seems to lack is morallity and ethics. It order to have a good society, we must make ethical dissisions. Doing things because you get some immediate advantage without regard for others is wrong. Just because a certain product seems a little better for you, doesn't me you should buy it. Should you buy a stolen rolex just because its cheaper and therefor a better deal for you? Likewise, just because a company has a product we like doesn't mean we shouldn't boycot them anyway.

I'm not saying you shouldn't use windows. I use windows (right now infact). I am not against your choice to use windows, i am against your reason for using it. "I use what suits me the most at the moment...". I'm sure there are alternatives that will suit you nicely even if you prefere windows. If you must use ms products, fine. But try to use alternatives whenever possible (as i seen you have been). You may prefere windows over they alternatives you considering, but you should ask yourself, is it really worth it?

p.s.
Using ms products is not such a bad thing. Paying for them is. If your going to use ms stuff, please don't pay for it. Give your money to the companies that are doing the innovating like Sun or Apple. Besides, anything good that will come out of Sun or Apple will end up in windows anyway.

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