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Running Windows for 3 weeks no viruses and no anti-virus!
worker201:
I have this firewall gui program installed in Linux called Firestarter, which is basically a front-end for iptables. It logs all the bad things that happen to my computer. Just going through this log is a sobering exercise. I get hundreds of hits per day from Windows worms and trojans. Of course none of them gets in.
Just so you know, there are agents out there that don't like you, and they are banging on your door. Maybe the threat has gone down some in the past few months, but it is most certainly not gone.
Aloone_Jonez:
Even if something gets thought it has quite a low chance of causing any damage because it's quite hard to fuck the system up without administrator rights.
ksym:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Muzzy was right when he said you don't need anti-virus, recently when I installed Windows I decided to do an experiment and not bother to install an antivirus program.
Upon installing I made the following changes to the default system configuration:
All user acounts are limited.
Disabled ActiveX controls and scripts in Internet Explorer.
Installed Firefox.
Ditched Outlook and used Thunderbird.
Disabled the remote access services.
Disabled Windows update and security alert.
Have I missed anything?
I still use Bittorrent but I don't download any executables.
Today I downloaded AVG anti-virus because Google said it detected malware (probabably just an ad but I panicked anyway) I scanned my PC and not one single virus was found!
I didn't install the memory resident scanner because I knew it would slow the system down be it still loaded some services when my machine booted so I did a regedit and disabled them manualy. Now my system runs as fast as before and I can scan any files right clicking on them clicking scan.
It looks like muzzy was right, you don't need any third party software to run Windows safely if you know what you're doing.
--- End quote ---
Yeah, but this need extra work. And extra work to secure your system is a bitch ;)
But nonetheless, Windows can be quite secure, if the user is not a retard.
I myself do not secure my Windows installation, eg. run everythin as admin. That is because I use Windows ONLY for playing pirated games and such, and so I need some cracking software and virtual drive emulators etc ... and those only run as a root afaik. If I used multi-user setup, I would need to logout/login as admin every time I need to mount another cd/dvd image with GameJack/daemon tools ... and I am kinda lazy so ah ...
piratePenguin:
MS should intergrade a sudo-like program into Vista. That could solve any confusion Windows newbies would have about root/nonroot stuff, the same way ubuntu does (popup a dialog box asking for pass when anything-root needs to be done, like installing software).
MarathoN:
I was using Windows 2000 SP4 for 8 months without any protection software.
It only fucked up because I deleted Windows Installer one day. :D
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