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Re: Please Help! Have been Finally Fed Up With Microsoft!
« Reply #15 on: 8 August 2005, 20:49 »
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At the first time they need to get DVD playback working (installing libdvdcss and others), they decide they want not survive with Linux ;)
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Re: Please Help! Have been Finally Fed Up With Microsoft!
« Reply #16 on: 8 August 2005, 21:42 »
Detailed instructions don't make something easy.  And they don't help you deal with new or strange problems either.  They make you dumb.  It makes me sick to see all the kids on linuxforums.org who are like "I can't find the install.exe for audacity" and "where can i find a driver for my mouse?".  Windows has rotted their brains, and made them incapable of understanding or appreciating Linux.

The only way to succeed in Linux is to just jump in and expect to fail.  Wipe your computer clean and reinstall.  If you can't get on the internet, go to the library and use theirs to find answers.  Don't even consider a dualboot for the first 3 months.  Read everything you can, and try everything you can.  Reinstall every week, and build your own kernels.  Eventually, you will be comfortable enough to start doing cool shit.

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Re: Please Help! Have been Finally Fed Up With Microsoft!
« Reply #17 on: 8 August 2005, 21:47 »
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Detailed instructions don't make something easy. And they don't help you deal with new or strange problems either. They make you dumb. It makes me sick to see all the kids on linuxforums.org who are like "I can't find the install.exe for audacity" and "where can i find a driver for my mouse?". Windows has rotted their brains, and made them incapable of understanding or appreciating Linux.

The only way to succeed in Linux is to just jump in and expect to fail. Wipe your computer clean and reinstall. If you can't get on the internet, go to the library and use theirs to find answers. Don't even consider a dualboot for the first 3 months. Read everything you can, and try everything you can. Reinstall every week, and build your own kernels. Eventually, you will be comfortable enough to start doing cool shit.

So true.

And this makes GNU/Linux an enterprise level OS, right?

AFAIK enterprise OS's need to have everything thought out for the user ... GNU/Linuxes are more make-it-yourself, so no enterprise for Linux then ;)

No wait, we have a chance!

What about you GNU/Linux dudes start admitting that GNU/Linux has a lot of problems, starting with non-standardized userland, ABI incompatibilities and the lack of robust installation API?

Admitting these defiencies should not be too hard, I know, I have done it. As a Linux user I know the faults and quirks of our platform, yet I am not ashamed of them.
People are stupid.
So: All Operating Systems suck because the people who make them are mostly retards.
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Re: Please Help! Have been Finally Fed Up With Microsoft!
« Reply #18 on: 8 August 2005, 22:45 »
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Hey guys. ALright since I was a kid I have been using Microsoft on all my computers. After going through so many troublesome reboots, windows xp repair installations, reboot installations, blue screens, and computer crashes I ahve been fed up. I got really fed up about this weekend. I am running a web design business and so I need to be on my computer almost every time. My computer crashed one day after turning it on and a black screen came up saying a recent hardwae or software change might have caused this while I ahd not installed or done anything wrong. So then the computer endlessly started rebooting and thats when I said enough is ENOUGH! So I ask you guys to help me out and show me a different solutions where I can have a different OS and I can also use my programs like Word Excel and MAcromedia Flash and Dreamweaver . So basically I want a different OS but to be able to use the same Programs.

And If you are really into it ...

JUST INSTALL BSD.

You get nice, well thought out standards and system designs with it. In GNU/Linux you sometimes need to do it all yourself, since these systems are not standardized in any way ...
People are stupid.
So: All Operating Systems suck because the people who make them are mostly retards.
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Re: Please Help! Have been Finally Fed Up With Microsoft!
« Reply #19 on: 8 August 2005, 22:56 »
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JUST INSTALL BSD.
Good suggestion.
You can get some information about GNU/FreeBSD at http://www.nongnu.org/glibc-bsd/

Just kidding. choochun2b, if you wanna go the *BSD route (hard. Very hard. But if you really wanted to do it, you could, and it would likely pay off in the end.), I suggest FreeBSD (NOT GNU/FreeBSD). The FreeBSD Handbook provides some brilliant and extensive documentation for FreeBSD to get you started.
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Re: Please Help! Have been Finally Fed Up With Microsoft!
« Reply #20 on: 9 August 2005, 19:02 »
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At the first time they need to get DVD playback working (installing libdvdcss and others), they decide they want not survive with Linux

Believe me, this is how it works in most of cases.
Very true. Very unfortunate.
 
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Only the most daring and the most brilliant people should be given rights to use GNU/Linux or BSD systems. The rest retardos should go wank on their Windows ...
No. This is wrong and you know it. But if they complain, say, that there ain't no Start menu, then let them rot away with Windows.
 
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   Detailed instructions don't make something easy. And they don't help you deal with new or strange problems either. They make you dumb. It makes me sick to see all the kids on linuxforums.org who are like "I can't find the install.exe for audacity" and "where can i find a driver for my mouse?". Windows has rotted their brains, and made them incapable of understanding or appreciating Linux.

Ubuntuguide does make the stuff easy. Most people won't bother though. Anyway: UG tells you the exact commands and it takes about five seconds to copy them down into the terminal. It takes a little longer if you try to understand what you actually do.
 
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What about you GNU/Linux dudes start admitting that GNU/Linux has a lot of problems, starting with non-standardized userland, ABI incompatibilities and the lack of robust installation API?

Admitting these defiencies should not be too hard, I know, I have done it. As a Linux user I know the faults and quirks of our platform, yet I am not ashamed of them.
In essence I agree. GNU/Linux has many, many faults. But I do think the community is more or less aware of this reality (it is quite obvious, I think) and a lot of people are working their asses off, most of these without being paid for it, to make things better.

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Re: Please Help! Have been Finally Fed Up With Microsoft!
« Reply #21 on: 10 August 2005, 00:40 »
Mac mini is $499. Plug your USB mouse, keyboard, and VGA display into it.
Go the fuck ~