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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #45 on: 22 August 2005, 05:24 »
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Supposedly, svg is going to take the place of Flash.  Supposedly.
Interesting.
I see how it could take the place of Flash for simple and complex animations, but what about Actionscript? Is there or will there ever be any work on that for SVG?

Flash is the only Windows program I miss :(
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #46 on: 22 August 2005, 05:39 »
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Supposedly, svg is going to take the place of Flash.  Supposedly.

I didn't forget it, I just decided it didn't belong there.
I'll make an animated png tonight, just for you.

You mean MNG, right? ;)
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #47 on: 22 August 2005, 23:30 »
http://www.triple-bypass.net/download/spam.png


If this graphic is animated, then your browser supports animated png.  Firefox Linux doesn't seem to... :(
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #48 on: 23 August 2005, 00:27 »
Firefox on Windows doesn't either, nor does Opera or Internet Explorer, what's the point of having this format when no browsers supports it.
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #49 on: 23 August 2005, 03:18 »
It worked inside Fireworks...
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #50 on: 23 August 2005, 05:51 »
Didn't work in Firefox on a Mac in OS X, either. BUT, to get Firefox to accept PNG's at all in OS X meant forcing a file association on it. One of the members of a Yahoo group I belong to uses png's all the time. The first time I downloaded one Panther acted like the file was poison or something. After control-click/get info and forcing it to open with FF, all was well. But his png's are not animated.

I wonder if animated png's are benign compared to Flash gifs. I block all Flash by default, in part because it's so cpu intensive.
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #51 on: 23 August 2005, 18:14 »
What's Fireworks?
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #52 on: 23 August 2005, 20:40 »
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What's Fireworks?

I believe worker201 is refering to Macromedia Fireworks.
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #53 on: 23 August 2005, 20:45 »
Ah... OK. Never heard of it before. I'm quite a noob in the business.
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #54 on: 23 August 2005, 23:44 »
Very interesting - I was reading through the Fireworks MX "Complete Reference" last night (a bargain used at $9.98).  In the chapters about animation, only GIF is mentioned.  I'm starting to wonder if png really does support animation or not.  More research is coming...
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #55 on: 23 August 2005, 23:50 »
People from England (such as myself) might also notice a hint of Irish some American accents - this is just another example of how Ireland has affect the lives of people in the US.
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #56 on: 24 August 2005, 00:14 »
Aloone, that's the other thread.  No Irish in here.
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #57 on: 24 August 2005, 04:17 »
Animation

  PNG does not offer animation. MNG is an image format that supports animation and is based on the ideas and some of the chunks of PNG but is a complex system and does not offer fallback to single image display like GIF does. APNG is another image format based on PNG that supports animation and is simpler than MNG. APNG offers fallback to single image display for PNG decoders that do not support APNG. However, as of 2005 neither of these formats is widely supported.


 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNG#Animation


 And regarding Fireworks...


 Bitmap graphics editor support for PNG

  See main article, Comparison of bitmap graphics editors

  Note that Macromedia Fireworks uses PNG as its native file format, but this contains a lot of metadata, such as information about layers, animation, text, and effects, so should not be distributed directly in this format. Fireworks can export as an optimised PNG (without the extra metadata), for use on web-pages etc. [2]

  Image processing programs that have PNG compression problems mainly related to lack of full implementation of the PNG compressor library

 
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #58 on: 25 August 2005, 00:14 »
The animation didn't work for me either, thanks for the info Kintaro. :thumbup:
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Re: US copyright office thinking of going partially IE only
« Reply #59 on: 25 August 2005, 01:53 »
That explains why it works inside Fireworks, but not outside after exportation.  Damn.  Fucking gif.
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