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Security experts confirm IE as hopelessly bug ridden and insecure
xyle_one:
sweet, then it is not mozillas fault.
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
Lazy-g already posted the links. The 2 I went to for reference(in my images) were www.hero6.com www.sflah.com .
At hero6 Mozilla only renders half of each image box at the bottom of the page, at sflash Mozilla has text mis-alignment problems.
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This is not because IE renders "properly" and Mozilla does not. It's because the web developer of that site did not code/test his site properly. He already has JavaScript calls to check for browser type and executes different code based on the browser. He obviously didn't check the non-IE section over very well.
The course of action in this case is to send a "nice" email to the webmaster at this site and notify him/her that the images at the bottom of the page are not displaying properly in Mozilla, could he please fix it. Then the problem will be solved for people who come behind you, and you will have made a difference. It's likely an oversight on the web developers part.
Zombie9920:
quote:Originally posted by void main:
What you have quoted is not HTML, it's JavaScript. And the section you quoted plainly shows it checks browser version and executes the code in different ways based on what browser you are using. In 99.9% of the cases if a site does not display correctly in a particular browser, it's because the webmaster did not code/test his site on said browser. It *is* a problem for you as a user, But it is entirely fault of the site developer and bad coding, not the fault of the browser.
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True, alot of site incompatabilites with Mozilla are the fault of the website being designed with IE in mind(considering over 89% of the world uses IE according to alot of the browser most commonly used to access site tests). Why should a webmaster even be bothered with re-coding thier page for the minority browser users? That would be nothing more than a blatent waste of the webmasters' time.
The website incompatibilites still don't explain why alot of the internet shortcut enabled input devices don't work properly with Mozilla.
BTW, I just installed MS Intellipoint 4.1 software and guess what? My back and forward buttons finally work in Mozilla(the middle mouse button still doesn't work though). Isn't funny how MS are nice enough to fix problems with an open source browser(something that the Open Source programmers can't seem to do properly).
Now, if only the internet buttons on my Logitech keyboard, my MS keyboard and my logitech wireless mouse worked properly with Mozilla then I wouldn't be able to complain about my hardware not properly working with Mozilla.
I don't get why Mozilla's programming team won't get off of thier sorry asses and fix hardware issues with thier browser thierselves...I mean it isn't caused by faulty hardware. All of my internet shortcut enabled hardware works fine with IE, Opera, Netscape 6, Netscape 7, MSN Explorer Neoplanet and the extra buttons even work properly on my Cousins' crappy ass AOL(he has internet shorcut enabled input devices also).
Oh yeah, the internet input device functions work fine in the above listed browsers with the built in Windows XP drivers for all of the input devices I have tried. ONLY Mozilla has required me to install software to make the stuff work(currently, the only hardware that works with the newest software in Mozilla is the MS mouse..and like I already said, MS fixed Mozillas' problem..not the Mozilla team, MS isn't so bad after all, huh ;) ).
[ October 25, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
True, alot of site incompatabilites with Mozilla are the fault of the website being designed with IE in mind(considering over 89% of the world uses IE according to alot of the browser most commonly used to access site tests). Why should a webmaster even be bothered with re-coding thier page for the minority browser users? That would be nothing more than a blatent waste of the webmasters' time.
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Let's see, 89% of the people in your town are under 6 foot tall. You built your store with a 6 foot door. You automatically lose 11% of your potential customers. That's more than the difference between your business making a profit and a loss.
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The website incompatibilites still don't explain why alot of the internet shortcut enabled input devices don't work properly with Mozilla.
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I have no idea what you are talking about here but again I will assume that you incorrectly believe that whatever IE does is the "correct" way and if it doesn't work that way in another browser it is "incorrect".
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BTW, I just installed MS Intellipoint 4.1 software and guess what? My back and forward buttons finally work in Mozilla(the middle mouse button still doesn't work though). Isn't funny how MS are nice enough to fix problems with an open source browser(something that the Open Source programmers can't seem to do properly).
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I can hardly believe that the Mozilla developers didn't fix the "Microsoft" drivers for the "Microsoft" mouse. Especially since they don't have the source code. How dare they! Get something without the MS label on it and maybe it will start working.
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I don't get why Mozilla's programming team won't get off of thier sorry asses and fix hardware issues with thier browser thierselves...I mean it isn't caused by faulty hardware. All of my internet shortcut enabled hardware works fine with IE, Opera, Netscape 6, Netscape 7, MSN Explorer Neoplanet and the extra buttons even work properly on my Cousins' crappy ass AOL(he has internet shorcut enabled input devices also).
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Programming hardware is not a function of the browser. It's a function of the operating system.
xyle_one:
about the hero6.com site
i added one thing to make it work right in mozilla, i specified a width to the table, and it shows up correctly. so those of you with mozilla can see that it is not mozilla fault.
hero page newhero page old
i hope it isnt too fucked up to copy/paste the code into my editor to play with it.
[ October 25, 2002: Message edited by: xyle_one-point-two ]
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