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Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Well I see no reason that it wouldn't be... Would you like to suggest one?
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Alright then:
Because companies can't make money from free software purely on its originality and so they can only rely on the services they provide with it, hence there is no real competitive reason for them to innovate. For example why should a company bother to add a new feature to thier program when their competitor can simply use the code and make their product equal in quality so the consumer will have no reason to prefer their product over their competitor's? If their program was closed source then they would have a reason to do this since it's be a lot harder for thier competitor to make thier program equal.
Not all open source software is innovitive OpenOffice sure isn't, but there again niether is it's proprietary counterpart (Microsoft Office), both dominate platforms, the former on Linux and the latter on Windows. The main (if only) advantage the free option has in this instance for most people is the price, fait enough some people might prefer MS Office's grammer checker while others would rather have the superiour drawing abilities of OO.
How ever this arguement might be bullshit because in my opinion SPICE, ABI Word and BASH are all very innovative pieces of software.
Like I said can think of many arguments as to why proprietary software is better and I can also provide equal arguments as to why free software is. I could argue with you about how shit free software is but there again I could also argue with someone like muzzy about how shit proprietary software is - I could even argue both sides with my self if you like? :D
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Rephrase, please... I'm not sure I'm interpreting that correctly.
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I only fully support great software (you say I support Windows but not fully as it's hardly great) and if the software I'm supporting is free then it's an added bonus.
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---For example why should a company bother to add a new feature to thier program when their competitor can simply use the code and make their product equal in quality so the consumer will have no reason to prefer their product over their competitor's?
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Well they're not making the money off the software - they're making it off the services. And I would guess that most users would get the support and other services off whoever wrote that particular program.
For example - X built X Writer and Y built Y Writer (perhaps it's a fork of X Writer). Whoever uses X Writer is going to get support off X and whoever uses Y Writer will get their support off Y. So both X and Y will be trying to build the best product (perhaps learning from eachother) so more users use their product, so more people buy their services.
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---I only fully support great software (you say I support Windows but not fully as it's hardly great) and if the software I'm supporting is free then it's an added bonus.
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Yep - I got it in the end (I edited my previous post).
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---you say I support Windows but not fully as it's hardly great
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"I say you support Windows"
What do you think, do you support Windows?
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---I could even argue both sides with my self if you like? :D
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Go wild ;)
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Well they're not making the money off the software - they're making it off the services. And I would guess that most users would get the support and other services off whoever wrote that particular program.
For example - X built X Writer and Y built Y Writer (perhaps it's a fork of X Writer). Whoever uses X Writer is going to get support off X and whoever uses Y Writer will get their support off Y. So both X and Y will be trying to build the best product (perhaps learning from eachother) so more users use their product, so more people buy their services.
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If you wish to go down this road then surly the quality of their services will in the end make more differance rather than their software, LOL if the software is that similar then I might even buy the support from the company with the best service and use the software from another company with the best software. :D
I think innovation in the open sector is more likely to come from amatuer programmers who think "Wouldn't it be good if this program did this? I know I'll modify the source so it does", yet again this doesn't prove that open source software would be more or less innovative on the whole.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Yep - I got it in the end (I edited my previous post).
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Thanks.
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Go wild ;)
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Alright here's a good article that deals with the open source security debate, and do you know what? it draws the same conclusion as I would, the licence isn't realy a big enough factor to make a real differance, and I believe the same to be true will all other the open vs closed source arguments.
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---I think innovation in the open sector is more likely to come from amatuer programmers who think "Wouldn't it be good if this program did this? I know I'll modify the source so it does", yet again this doesn't prove that open source software would be more or less innovative on the whole.
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Yep. Alot of cool stuff could happen in the embedded market if the software that runs on some of the devices was free. Like the PSP or the iPod. They could try all sorts of stuff on them things that Sony/Apple mightn't be bothered trying.
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Alright here's a good article that deals with the open source security debate, and do you know what? it draws the same conclusion as I would, the licence isn't realy a big enough factor to make a real differance, and I believe the same to be true will all other the open vs closed source arguments.
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--- Quote from: that ---If having the code
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Aloone_Jonez:
I wonder if that bug has been fixed in Seamonkey?
Wow, that's a very long (biased) article!
I don't know if I'll ever have time to read it since (being dyslexic) I'm a very slow reader, some of your posts took long enough to read! Personally I'd rather concentrate my study on more objective articles.
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