Thank fucking god, no more Ubuntu

[Kintaro]

Well I have finally fucked off Ubuntu and I am now running Debian, with little trouble merging my existing configurations for Deer Park, Crossover Office, VMware 5, and Azureus.

It works better than Ubuntu, like shitloads better. In fact, it is fucking awesome.

[themacuser]

Funny, I know someone yesterday who just formatted off Debian, saying that it sucked. He is now using Ubuntu and likes it...

[Jenda]

I like Ubuntu. But I don't know any better (all I can say is that mandrake/iva is a LOT worse).

[piratePenguin]

I like Ubuntu. But I don't know any better (all I can say is that mandrake/iva is a LOT worse).

I quite loved Mandrake back in the day.

I intend on installing Ubuntu 5.10 to see what it's like and to try and look at things from a newbie perspective, to see how hard it would be for newbies to use.

[Pathos]

I finally got Ubuntu after requesting the CD's 2 months ago.

Tried the live CD.

its hidieous and empty.

Sound worked fine tho.

[jtpenrod]

"Well I have finally fucked off Ubuntu and I am now running Debian..."

Never gave Ubuntu a go. Then, again, I'm way past the "n00b" stage. I prefer Slack, and what I have is a highly customized version that includes quite a bit of soft and extras that just weren't on the Slack install CD (Enlightenment, WebMin, emelFM, Feh, GImageView, GRUB, iv, JEdit). That's what I like about Slack: it's quite easy to set up a minimal install, then flesh it out later.

If "Noobuntu" is like most of the "newbie" distros, I'd have to go back and rip out too much stuff to make it like I like. Why bother?

[Pathos]

I can't believe how few programs are on it and how ugly it is, the best way to introduce a noob is to make them feel comfortable with the interface and to provide all the basic software they'll ever need.

[Aloone_Jonez]

I've tried ubuntu, and (for what it's worth) here's my opinion:

Installation
This was pretty easy and like Vector Linux and Windows XP it didn't give me very much choice, so on this front it's very newb friendly, and everything worked apart from my NTL cable modem.

Configureation
I still had to edit some text files to get things to work the way I like so on this front it isn't ver newb friendly.

General use
Not too bad, GNOME is fairly easy to use and most tasks are point and click.

Overall
Ok, a fairly average newb distro, but I wouldn't recommend it to a tru newb as you often still have to edit text files to get things working the way you want.

[piratePenguin]

What textfiles did you have to edit and what would you recommend instead?

[MarathoN]

Ah I tried the Gnome 2.12 Live CD a few days ago, that runs Ubuntu, it was horrible, hated it. :rolleyes:

[Aloone_Jonez]

What textfiles did you have to edit

I can't remember exactly but I had to edit the following:

fstab  to get it automount my NTFS and FAT32 partitions.

X86Config to set  up the graphics properly.

grub.conf to set it up to boot Windows by default and to change the time out and the OS name from DOS to Windows XP.

and what would you recommend instead?

Shit, I've just realised that in all the distros I've used I had to edit one or all of the above. Is there a distro you can use where you don't?

Some distros set up this stuff during the instalation and often have nice and pretty GUIs to do this but once you've installed it they seem to disappear so you have to edit the text files. I don't know I might not have had to edit them at all I just did it the way I was told to in the manual so please correct me if I'm wrong.

[piratePenguin]

Shit, I've just realised that in all the distros I've used I had to edit one or all of the above. Is there a distro you can use where you don't?

There are tools for setting up stuff like that from a GUI.
SuSE's Yast might be able to configure some or all of that stuff, I dunno. It's probably your best bet.

[Lead Head]

can't remember exactly but I had to edit the following:
 
 fstab  to get it automount my NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
 
 X86Config to set  up the graphics properly.
 
 grub.conf to set it up to boot Windows by default and to change the time out and the OS name from DOS to Windows XP.

SuSE's yast can do all of that.  I had SuSE 9.1 but it got screwed up when i upgraded my hardware, and i couldnt find my disc, I am gonna burn some new discs and re-install it.

[Aloone_Jonez]

I might give it a go then, I'm not bother about editing config files I wasn't complaining I was just saying it can put some newbs off. Yess I suppost I'm still a bit of a newb but I know the basics and I'm clever wnough to RTFM and sort out most problems for myself. Come to think of it it'd be a chalange to set up Linux and get it working how I want it to without using the keyboard apart from entering text infomation, i.e type my name and info but no cammands or configuration file editing. I wonder if there's a dirstro out there that can do it and from what you're saying SuSE might be the one.

[piratePenguin]

it'd be a chalange to set up Linux and get it working how I want it to without using the keyboard apart from entering text infomation, i.e type my name and info but no cammands or configuration file editing.

Least you get sane defaults.

I spend far less time getting a GNU/Linux system up and running than a Windows system. FAR.
Probably everyone who's confertable with both operating systems would say the same.