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toadlife

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Re: Is RMS Being Inconsistent on Civil Rights?
« Reply #15 on: 11 October 2005, 18:16 »
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No shit, now, what is your point?

World population problems won't be solved by forcing people not to have babies.

edit:oh...and RMS is an idiot.
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Re: Is RMS Being Inconsistent on Civil Rights?
« Reply #16 on: 11 October 2005, 18:30 »
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World population problems won't be solved by forcing people not to have babies.
Then how will they be solved?
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a more productive way of controlling population growth is to try and promote economic development
Economic development would be the ultimate solution, but I'm sure it's not easy.
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Re: Is RMS Being Inconsistent on Civil Rights?
« Reply #17 on: 11 October 2005, 19:33 »
Economic development sounds like a panacea, but... how in hell's name do you do it?

Sure, you can say all you want that "someone should help develop these nations", but that requires three things:

1) Capital
2) Cooperation
3) Incentive

The capital may exist, but not in the amounts needed.

Cooperation likely won't exist, as many of these countries are rather fascist... developing the entire country wouldn't help the regime.

Incentive? See above. The leaders of the countries don't want it, and US/UK businesses aren't going to pump billions into creating more competition for themselves. There's no incentive. The EU might be happy to squander untold riches on this, but then, it is the EU.
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Re: Is RMS Being Inconsistent on Civil Rights?
« Reply #18 on: 11 October 2005, 21:29 »
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Economic development sounds like a panacea, but... how in hell's name do you do it?
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Economic development has been happening around the globe steadily for 100 years. I don't know that there is anything more we can do.
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Re: Is RMS Being Inconsistent on Civil Rights?
« Reply #19 on: 12 October 2005, 06:50 »
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World population problems won't be solved by forcing people not to have babies.

edit:oh...and RMS is an idiot.

They won't be solves by us sitting on our arses either. What do you suggest genius, genocide?

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Re: Is RMS Being Inconsistent on Civil Rights?
« Reply #20 on: 12 October 2005, 15:32 »
Here's a solution: anyone who complains about world population problems and asks for genocide should kill himself.

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Re: Is RMS Being Inconsistent on Civil Rights?
« Reply #21 on: 12 October 2005, 16:06 »
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Economic development has been happening around the globe steadily for 100 years. I don't know that there is anything more we can do.

No it hasn't, its just nearly every nation except yours is getting poor.

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Re: Is RMS Being Inconsistent on Civil Rights?
« Reply #22 on: 13 October 2005, 01:01 »
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No it hasn't, its just nearly every nation except yours is getting poor.


Can you back that statement up? I'm not saying you're wrong, it just sounds kinda like propaganda. I thought China, India, France, Australia, Finland and the UK were doing fine right now (well, better than average or the same, no huge\noticable losses).

And yes, you could throw what I just said back at me, and accuse me of repeating propaganda myself, although some of that is from memory, based on Wikipedia pages.

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Re: Is RMS Being Inconsistent on Civil Rights?
« Reply #23 on: 13 October 2005, 10:56 »
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Can you back that statement up? I'm not saying you're wrong, it just sounds kinda like propaganda. I thought China, India, France, Australia, Finland and the UK were doing fine right now (well, better than average or the same, no huge\noticable losses).

And yes, you could throw what I just said back at me, and accuse me of repeating propaganda myself, although some of that is from memory, based on Wikipedia pages.

 Development militarily need not necessarily be development economically.

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