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MS entry-level VS Express progs

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worker201:
The increase in Mac software production may be caused by a new look under the hood.  Before OSX, you couldn't look around and see things, or pop open a terminal and do unixy things.  Now you can, and it is by far OSX's best feature.  Greater access to the inside workings, combined with a great dev environment, combined with a bunch of wide open standards, combined with the usefulness and help of ADC have really pulled Apple to the next level.  And Microsoft cannot follow.

hm_murdock:

--- Quote ---That's a long way from actually releasing the complete documentation on how MFC calls interact with the Operating System. Actually, it sounds like the sort of improvement that will get people to relax about Microsoft's closedness for awhile, so they can pillage the market a little more. Sorry, but I don't trust those bastards.
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May be so, but fully-functioning VisualStudio apps for $49... actually... free until November 7, 2006.


--- Quote ---I'm not convinced, how can we be sure that this cut down software will be any good for developing serious applications?
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Because it's the same as the other apps, however lacking the documentation (replacing it with interactive tutorials in Help files), and phone support subscriptions.

I've tried VB Express and VC++ Express, and they carry the full feature set of the others.

Aloone_Jonez:
Just thinking, whatever happent to Borland? Didn't they used to be a big competitor to MS, did they get shafted or something?

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