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piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: skyman8081 ---I THINK that there is a text editor somewhere in EMACS, I've never been able to find it.  Once my hand heals from being twisted around trying to find the shortcut for it, I'll let you know.
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And similarly someone could make the same joke about Opera ;)

Aloone_Jonez:
piratePenguin,
Your argument all hindges on XUL support presuming it'll become a dominant technology and Opera won't support it. You bet if XUL takes off big Opera will implement it (they won't have any choice) but if it doesn't they obviously won't need to. I really don't see how XUL alone makes FireFox superiour to Opera, wOw!!! OmG!! MicR$oFT InTeRNeT ExPlOrER suPPORtS ACiVE x!!!! THi$ MaKe$ It beTTeR ThaN oPerA and FIreFoX PUt ToGethER!!!! :rolleyes:

By the way you can't make the same joke about Opera - I don't need to use the keyboard in Opera except to enter text of course.

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---piratePenguin,
Your argument all hindges on XUL support presuming it'll become a dominant technology and Opera won't support it.
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Wow you got it all wrong.

What I'm saying (most of it anyhow) is that: IMO Firefox is technically superior to Opera, mainly because of XUL. XUL is a wonderful technology IMO. It's working wonders for Mozilla (most of the other Mozilla apps - Thunderbird etc., are also XUL apps).

XUL doesn't need to become a dominant technology, Firefox would still be just as technically-good or -bad as it was before it was dominant.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---
You bet if XUL takes off big Opera will implement it (they won't have any choice) but if it doesn't they obviously won't need to. I really don't see how XUL alone makes FireFox superiour to Opera, wOw!!! OmG!! MicR$oFT InTeRNeT ExPlOrER suPPORtS ACiVE x!!!! THi$ MaKe$ It beTTeR ThaN oPerA and FIreFoX PUt ToGethER!!!! :rolleyes:
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Wow I really am dealing with kids.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---
By the way you can't make the same joke about Opera - I don't need to use the keyboard in Opera except to enter text of course.
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Wow you really did get it all wrong.


Just. Wow.

Aloone_Jonez:

--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---What I'm saying (most of it anyhow) is that: IMO Firefox is technically superior to Opera, mainly because of XUL.
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A ridiculous argument, that's like saying "Microsoft Windows is technically superiour to Linux because of DDE and OLE".


--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---It's working wonders for Mozilla (most of the other Mozilla apps - Thunderbird etc., are also XUL apps).
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OLE and DDE are working wonders for Microsoft Windows, it's great I can copy data to the clipboard from one application and paste it into another, I can even doulble click on the object and edit it again!

Currently, what positive effect is XUL having on Firefox?
Apart from being able to see your pretty web page I have yet to see any real advantages - I haven't noticed anything that provides a significantly superiour user experiance or benifits security. I use Thunderbird and it's quite good but I haven't seen anything really innovative (there's nothing that makes it stand out from the rest) for all I know ther could be something technically superiour out there, I just haven't found it. OLE and DDE have had a far bigger positive impact on Microsoft Windows applications than XUL has had on FireFox, they increase productivity by allowing me to use many applications to create one document - the more tools in my tool box the better.

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---A ridiculous argument, that's like saying "Microsoft Windows is technically superiour to Linux because of DDE and OLE".
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You said yourself that the Opera guys would even possibly have to adopt XUL or "die".

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---
OLE and DDE are working wonders for Microsoft Windows, it's great I can copy data to the clipboard from one application and paste it into another,
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I can do that on here too.

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---
Currently, what positive effect is XUL having on Firefox?
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Extensability and themeability were much easier to get working (I'm sure). It will run and look like a native app on different systems. It can render XUL pages.

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