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Lead Head:
a pentium 3 is far faster than a celeron at the same clock speeds. if you were to take a 1.8ghz p3 and a 1.8ghz celeron. the p3 would seem closer to around a 2.4-2.8 p4
worker201:
A thought:
Celeron is to Pentium as 486SX is to 486DX2
Is this true? Is the Celeron missing the math co-processor? Or is it fucked up in some other way?
Lead Head:
Celeron=Missing huge amount of cache,
the socket 370 celerons had 128k l2 cache
the socket 478 have 256k-512k l2 cache. the equivalent p4 would have 512k and 1mb
the lga775 celerons have 512k l2 cache(the p4s have 2mb or 4mb for dual core)
and the dothan celerons have 1mb l2 cache with the pentium Ms have 2mb
in the Netburst world, cache makes a hige differnce
considering a duron with 64k l2 cache pwned a cleron with 128k l2 cache
piratePenguin:
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WMD:
--- Quote from: Lead Head ---Celeron=Missing huge amount of cache,
the socket 370 celerons had 128k l2 cache
the socket 478 have 256k-512k l2 cache. the equivalent p4 would have 512k and 1mb
the lga775 celerons have 512k l2 cache(the p4s have 2mb or 4mb for dual core)
and the dothan celerons have 1mb l2 cache with the pentium Ms have 2mb
in the Netburst world, cache makes a hige differnce
considering a duron with 64k l2 cache pwned a cleron with 128k l2 cache
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Not all correct information.
The Socket 370 did in fact have 128k...but so did the first 478s. The Celeron D (both 478 and 775) have 256k, and no Celeron to date has 512k. You are also correct about the Celeron M.
The Celeron also always has a lower bus speed: today's go no higher than 533MHz, and the original Celerons were 66MHz (when the P2 was 100). Usually, they keep the Celeron bus at half the speed of the highest Pentium bus.
The statement that cache makes a big difference "in the Netburst" world is a bit misleading. It matters on ALL architectures. The duron "pwning" the Celeron would have nothing to do with this (I never even heard of that happening, anyway).
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