Windows Sucks

[toadlife]

What annoys me more than MS's monopoly on the OS market, is their monopoly on the Office market (?). I fail to understand why any sane person would prefer MS Office to OpenOffice.org.
WTF is with all the fcking schools/universities/EVERYTHING ELSE using MS Office? I just don't get it.

That's easy. MS Office is better than Open Office. My wife being an English major takes the Office spell checker, and grammar checker for granted. I tried to get her to use Open Office, and she had a fit. The spell checker in Open Office is simply sub-par compared to Microosft's and there is no grammar checker at all in OO!

Now, I'm not saying OO isn't a great product - it is - but it's different enough to make long time users of MS Office not like it. The interface of OO is not exactly like MS Office, and for non-technical users (like my wife) this can be terrifying.

[Jenda]

I can't but agree with you, Toadlife, but still, I prefer OOo, if it is solely for ideological reasons.

[KernelPanic]

That's easy. MS Office is better than Open Office. My wife being an English major takes the Office spell checker, and grammar checker for granted. I tried to get her to use Open Office, and she had a fit. The spell checker in Open Office is simply sub-par compared to Microosft's and there is no grammar checker at all in OO!

Now, I'm not saying OO isn't a great product - it is - but it's different enough to make long time users of MS Office not like it. The interface of OO is not exactly like MS Office, and for non-technical users (like my wife) this can be terrifying.

I'd rather no grammar checker, than the MS Office one.
That thing is so crap it is unbelievable.

Of course, Microsoft are an American company so perhaps I should cut 'em some slack on crimers against grammar

[piratePenguin]

That's easy. MS Office is better than Open Office. My wife being an English major takes the Office spell checker, and grammar checker for granted. I tried to get her to use Open Office, and she had a fit. The spell checker in Open Office is simply sub-par compared to Microosft's and there is no grammar checker at all in OO!

Now, I'm not saying OO isn't a great product - it is - but it's different enough to make long time users of MS Office not like it. The interface of OO is not exactly like MS Office, and for non-technical users (like my wife) this can be terrifying.

Yea but "teaching" MS Office in school is...
EVIL!

[toadlife]

I'd rather no grammar checker, than the MS Office one.
That thing is so crap it is unbelievable.

Of course, Microsoft are American so perhaps I should cut 'em some slack on crimers against grammar

It is quite ironic that you say that, considering the horrendous grammar of your post.

[piratePenguin]

I must say I'd recommend Ubuntu over Mandrake anytime, but that's prolly just apersonal preference - the two are both *perfect* for noobs and ex-windozers.
I just converted a friend two days ago. Installed a dual boot w2k/Ubuntu (not necessarily in this order), and he's already thinking of reformatting the dreaded C: drive...

Good job!

I started off on Mandrake and that's really the main reason I been recommending it to so many people.
I used Ubuntu a good bit and I have one sub-successful convert using Ubuntu. It probably might be better for Windows users.

I'll probably recommend Ubuntu from now on. Maybe.

[KernelPanic]

It is quite ironic that you say that, considering the horrendous grammar of your post.

I'll try harder next time.

[Aloone_Jonez]

That's easy. MS Office is better than Open Office. My wife being an English major takes the Office spell checker, and grammar checker for granted. I tried to get her to use Open Office, and she had a fit. The spell checker in Open Office is simply sub-par compared to Microosft's and there is no grammar checker at all in OO!

Now, I'm not saying OO isn't a great product - it is - but it's different enough to make long time users of MS Office not like it. The interface of OO is not exactly like MS Office, and for non-technical users (like my wife) this can be terrifying.

I agree, I like OpenOffice and I prefer it for for vector graphics becuase it's drawing tools are a lot beter than MS office's and the fact that it can save in more formats is also an added bonus. OpenOffice is also less efficent at managing the system resources because to do word processing you have to have the whole office suite loaded.

I do miss the grammar and the MS office spell checker was better along with the charting package and formula editor which the did buy of another company.

The main reason why I use OpenOffice is because my PC came with the big fat and shitty software called MS works  who's name in it's self is a joke. MS never Works has to be possibly the the worst piece of MS software I've ever seen, it's featureless and virtually incompatable with MS office, the only advantage it has is it's lighter and uses less resources but that's because it's full of hot air.

[toadlife]

It's time for me to play devil

[piratePenguin]

At least MS would be good-as-dead, and Microsuck's ultimate goal would be realised.
The tyranny that is MS would be powerless.
Power to the community!

Erm. Anyhow.
Use GNU/Hurd!

[Aloone_Jonez]

For a start the default Windows XP configuration sets up the account with administrator rights while every Linux distibtion I know of forces you to have a separate user account.

Linux is far cheaper to maintain than Windows - lower total cost of ownership.

Windows is far harder to modify and customize.

Windows requires 3rd party software to run well, while Linux comes with everything you need.

[piratePenguin]

For a start the default Windows XP configuration sets up the account with administrator rights while every Linux distibtion I know of forces you to have a separate user account.

Actually, the Slackware installer only asks for a root pass and that's it. Then after rebooting you can add a user all ya want with useradd.

[Aloone_Jonez]

So slackware doesn't pretend to be newb friendly like Windows does.

[piratePenguin]

So slackware doesn't pretend to be newb friendly like Windows does.

Last I checked Windows didn't even ask for a password on install.

And I was just pointing it out BTW.

Slackware is the last distro for noobs to try. It, Gentoo, and LFS I think (from the distros I've used).

[toadlife]

For a start the default Windows XP configuration sets up the account with administrator rights while every Linux distibtion I know of forces you to have a separate user account.

So? What permissions are required to place an executable file called evildaemon.bin in ~/.malware/ and set it to start up when KDE loads?

Linux is far cheaper to maintain than Windows - lower total cost of ownership.

In order for the masses to use it, there will have to be seamless auto-update that doesn't involve the command line, and lasts for more than 18 months per version. Name a distro that supports this without having to pay. If there were 100,000 million desktop Linux users, the existing free update solutions that certain linux vendor's support just wouldn't work, because of the enormous costs involved.

Windows is far harder to modify and customize.

But does the average user give a shit about this?

Windows requires 3rd party software to run well, while Linux comes with everything you need.

And you don't think that would change if everyone switched to linux?