Windows Sucks

[Aloone_Jonez]

And you don't think that would change if everyone switched to linux?

Linux is shipped with all the software you require to run a secure system while Windows requires anti-virus and other 3rd party tools to unfuck it when something bad happens.

[xyle_one]

Don't you have to have permission to run anything that would do any damage in Linux?

But, to be fair. I use Windows at work. Its been solid in the 7 months I have been here. No problems at all. None. I think it's because I am not an idiot...
I haven't had an virus problems, or spyware problems, or bsods, or random system freezes, and Bill Gates hasn't taken over my soul yet. I used to have tons of problems with Windows, but I found out it was all hardware related.

you people are so stupid all you do is sit around a complain about microsoft are there any other operating systems more used why because it is the best easiest for most people and you are just to lazy to go work and make a better one and create a monopoly yourself until you do that you cant complain you are just jeoulous you couldnt think to create a monopoly and make billions of dollars yourself

This is my favorite post in the history of the world.

well im sick of you your not my friend anymore because you stole my bmx and kissed my girlfriend in the trees while i was waiting for the bus which was late and i came home and mother gave me a spanking which is all your fault because you couldnt think to steal a car and pick me up so then we could get to school on time and learn how to write a proper sentance

So is this

[piratePenguin]

Don't you have to have permission to run anything that would do any damage in Linux?

To the system, yes. But you can damnage the user a/c, send spam and some other stuff. Let it be known: THIS IS NOT AS BAD AS THE SITUATION ON WINDOWS!

[Aloone_Jonez]

Don't you have to have permission to run anything that would do any damage in Linux?

But, to be fair. I use Windows at work. Its been solid in the 7 months I have been here. No problems at all. None. I think it's because I am not an idiot...
I haven't had an virus problems, or spyware problems, or bsods, or random system freezes, and Bill Gates hasn't taken over my soul yet. I used to have tons of problems with Windows, but I found out it was all hardware related.

I agree, Windows has only crashed on me once in over year. Pre Windows 2000 was a different story the shitty old DOS kernel made it highly unstable.

This is my favorite post in the history of the world.

So is this

I agree.

[xyle_one]

Then it again falls on the user not being a complete and total fucktard. Maybe it's a good thing they all use windows?

[Aloone_Jonez]

I agree imagine what UNIX would be like with retards at the wheel.

Can anyone else think of any reasons why not to use Windows?

I was very suprised at the lack of Linux supporters who challenged toadlife's post, can it be that Windows is improving and people here are fast running out of reasons for people to switch to alternatives?

[piratePenguin]

I think it's because I am not an idiot...

Umm... Err...
I think you might want to edit/remove that. Seriously.
I'm not an idiot. I used to use Windows XP.
It crashed. Alot.
And I know Windows inside out. Obviously more than likely not as much as muzzy and possibly yourself, but WHY should one need to learn so much to make the system run smooth?

Crashing can barely ever be blamed on the user. It's either the software (OS + drivers), or the hardware causing the computer to crash. Windows runs like shite under some hardware setups, it seems. Whereas GNU/Linux would generally kick ass on the same hardware. That tells me that the software that is Windows and it's drivers are SHIT (as in unstable).

[xyle_one]

I would say it's more that this isn't 1998 anymore. XP is pretty solid, even if it is bloated.

While, in my eyes, the alternatives to Windows are superior, especially when it comes to increasing my own productivity, for basic users doing basic tasks, email, internet, managing their photos, printing those photos, even watching movies and listening to music, windows works fine for them. It tries to make it easier. I believe that it is even easier on OSX though. Apple did it right. Work on the basic things and make them simpler for the user. Then you can add more functionality to it. With Linux, maybe there are too many choices. What normal user is going to test out 3 different email clients, 5 browsers, 3 office suites, etc, when they really have no idea what they are looking at in the first place? It's overwhelming.

Umm... Err...
I think you might want to edit/remove that. Seriously.
I'm not an idiot. I used to use Windows XP.
It crashed. Alot.
And I know Windows inside out. Obviously more than likely not as much as muzzy and possibly yourself, but WHY should one need to learn so much to make the system run smooth?

Crashing can barely ever be blamed on the user. It's either the software (OS + drivers), or the hardware causing the computer to crash. Windows runs like shite under some hardware setups, it seems. Whereas GNU/Linux would generally kick ass on the same hardware. That tells me that the software that is Windows and it's drivers are SHIT (as in unstable).

Ha, no I am not going to remove that. My windows machine is solid right now. Do a search for my old posts, from like 2-3 years ago, and yeah, i would bitch about it all the time. But it's hardware most of the time. This machine I am using now is solid.

Also, when I get a new linux install, first thing I do is tweak the hell out of it to make it work the way I want to. I spend a long time doing that, and learning to make it work, leraning the system. Why shouldn't you do the same with Windows? Even in OSX I will spend time making it work. Sure, it works out of the box, but at some point you have to tweak it a bit.

[piratePenguin]

I was very suprised at the lack of Linux supporters who challenged toadlife's post, can it be that Windows is improving and people here are fast running out of reasons for people to switch to alternatives?

Read his post again, there's so many assumptions in it. And they are kindof realistic. But anything could happen.
That's why I listed the non-technical consequences of the fall of MS.
And I forgot one BTW:
FREEDOM!

[xyle_one]

Are we not free to use Windows if we choose? Freedom is having the ability to choose what we want to run. If that choice is windows, then so be it. Don't start talking shit about not being free. Right now at work, if I so choose to, I can install Fedora and use that. Is that not free?

[Aloone_Jonez]

The drivers aren't the fault of the operating system. Often GNU/Linux can have poor quality drivers, in fact it's not uncommon for graphics cards to work but without the acceleration, printer/scanners to print but not scan and modems not working.

Any operating system can be fucked up by bad drivers. For example my printer scanner came with both Windows and Mac drivers and as they're both written by the same company the Mac driver is as good or bad as the Windows dirver. In this cas the Linux driver was by far the worst as it would print but not scan.

Noramally Windows/Mac drivers are written by the hardware vendor but Linux drivers are hacked togeather by geeks. Companies often don't wan't to give up their trade secretes so they don't release details of the protocol used to communicate with the device. The Linux dirvers are often a product of reverse engineering while the Windows and Mac divers are normally written with full knowledge of the hardware. I admit there are as always exeptions to the rule but this is the norm.

[piratePenguin]

Ha, no I am not going to remove that. My windows machine is solid right now. Do a search for my old posts, from like 2-3 years ago, and yeah, i would bitch about it all the time. But it's hardware most of the time. This machine I am using now is solid.

Well... After a bit of thought one would find that user knowledge doesn't make the OS any more stable/secure. Maybe the system.

Also, when I get a new linux install, first thing I do is tweak the hell out of it to make it work the way I want to. I spend a long time doing that, and learning to make it work, leraning the system. Why shouldn't you do the same with Windows? Even in OSX I will spend time making it work. Sure, it works out of the box, but at some point you have to tweak it a bit.

WTF is that about? I've used Windows for years and I am not going back to that pi-ece o' shite no-matter what.

And I can't make Windows work the way I want to. I can't make it stable. I can't make it secure. I've tried everything under the Sun. It doesn't work. The only solution: ditch that pi-ece o' shite!

[Aloone_Jonez]

Read his post again, there's so many assumptions in it. And they are kindof realistic. But anything could happen.
That's why I listed the non-technical consequences of the fall of MS.
And I forgot one BTW:
FREEDOM!

I agree but most people don't really care about whether software is free or not all they care is it does what they want.

[piratePenguin]

The drivers aren't the fault of the operating system. Often GNU/Linux can have poor quality drivers, in fact it's not uncommon for graphics cards to work but without the acceleration, printer/scanners to print but not scan and modems not working.

Any operating system can be fucked up by bad drivers. For example my printer scanner came with both Windows and Mac drivers and as they're both written by the same company the Mac driver is as good or bad as the Windows dirver. In this cas the Linux driver was by far the worst as it would print but not scan.

Noramally Windows/Mac drivers are written by the hardware vendor but Linux drivers are hacked togeather by geeks. Companies often don't wan't to give up their trade secretes so they don't release details of the protocol used to communicate with the device. The Linux dirvers are often a product of reverse engineering while the Windows and Mac divers are normally written with full knowledge of the hardware. I admit there are as always exeptions to the rule but this is the norm.

You'd think that Windows would have stable drivers LMAO! It's so damn funny. The most popular, and supposadly stable OS out there and the MANUFACTURERS are FUCKING IT UP with SHIT DRIVERS!
GO MANUFACTURERS!

GNU/Linux may be excused, for it recieves too damn little manufacturer support (good thing?), and the manufacturers don't give two fucks about the drivers they do make for it (good thing?).

[piratePenguin]

Are we not free to use Windows if we choose? Freedom is having the ability to choose what we want to run. If that choice is windows, then so be it. Don't start talking shit about not being free. Right now at work, if I so choose to, I can install Fedora and use that. Is that not free?

What I said was that the fall of MS would ultamitely lead to greater freedom. As would the fall of any monopoly, I'd expect.