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muzzy:
Yea, Aloone is saying that he wants everything in one CD, and he wants the system to kick ass after he has installed it. He says Windows doesn't make this possible. However, the Linux distributions contain third party software along with them, so you can't really compare the two. Yeah, you can get linux cd that does magic and has all sorts of great software. You can get windows cd to do the same, too, but it's illegal, and it's called warez. Some of the warez windows distributions are actually better than what you can find in the store. Significantly so.
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: muzzy ---Yea, Aloone is saying that he wants everything in one CD, and he wants the system to kick ass after he has installed it.
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Well if Windows is supposed to be akick ass operating system that should be the case. :D
--- Quote from: muzzy --- He says Windows doesn't make this possible.
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Not in its current state as you still have to buy anti-virus software form a 3rd party to make it secure.
--- Quote from: muzzy --- However, the Linux distributions contain third party software along with them, so you can't really compare the two. Yeah, you can get linux cd that does magic and has all sorts of great software.
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My Knoppix CD contains lots of software, but it's all being distributed by the same organisation. You can't really compare Windows to Linux in this case because the licence is different, sure a Linux distribution can contain as much freely distributable software as is possible from as many parties as possible some even contain propriety software under a licence.
--- Quote from: muzzy ---You can get windows cd to do the same, too, but it's illegal, and it's called warez. Some of the warez windows distributions are actually better than what you can find in the store. Significantly so.
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So you can get pirate Windows with virus chacker and all can you?
Yet again you fail to understand that Microsoft should inculde an anti-Virus program with Windows. People still have to buy anti-Virus from a 3rd party to keep their system secure, and this is unacceptable. If Microsoft made their shitty OS secure in the first place people wouldn't have to buy any 3rd party software simply to run their system.
1st party = me, or company using the product wheter it be Windows, Mac OS, BSD, Linux ect.
2nd party = product supplyier whether it be Microsoft or Redhat, Macintosh or anyone else.
3rd party = antivirus made by another company other than the one you aquired the operating system from - ie. a 3rd party.
You should only buy software from a 3rd party to do other things that are non-essential to the running of the system, like Opera - a nice web browser or star office for college work. An anti-virus should be unnecessary, and if needed at all it should come with the operating system which is distributed by the 2nd party ie. Microsoft in the case with Windows.
Before responding muzzy, please verify you a agree we me on the definitions of the terms 1st 2nd and 3rd party or we won't get anywhere. :)
BobTheHob:
--- Quote from: muzzy ---Yea, Aloone is saying that he wants everything in one CD, and he wants the system to kick ass after he has installed it. He says Windows doesn't make this possible. However, the Linux distributions contain third party software along with them, so you can't really compare the two. Yeah, you can get linux cd that does magic and has all sorts of great software. You can get windows cd to do the same, too, but it's illegal, and it's called warez. Some of the warez windows distributions are actually better than what you can find in the store. Significantly so.
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Oh, then I wonder why I can do a minimal install of FreeBSD with no gui or any third party software. No configuration after installation, yet, with security higher than windows ever will be even with third party software on the win box. About the only way for the windows security to usurp the BSD boxes security would be to take it off the net. You can say all you wan't, but windows will never ever have as good of security as any *nix.
Orethrius:
--- Quote from: BobTheHob ---About the only way for the windows security to usurp the BSD boxes security would be to take it off the net.
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But then, that would be the key to 100% network security (notice I won't use *physical* for something like this, someone can still access it locally). ;)
Aloone_Jonez:
Windows could be as secure as BSD, if you used a BSD firewall. ;)
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