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Pathos:

--- Quote from: muzzy ---The government of Muzzylandia cannot recommend C++ to a complete newbie. It has way too many newbie traps and problems, and its abstractions tend to leak to machine level in every implementation of it so you need to understand a lot more than just the programming language when your program doesn't work and you need to fix it.

Python is fine, even though I find the indentation issue to be unholy.
--- End quote ---


only one way to learn... :P

but actually I think java is the best to learn with. I just can't recommend any IDEs worth using...

Aloone_Jonez:
Visual Basic and Qbasic's are good newb languages.

Oh sorry they're M$ so I must recommend FreeBASIC.

Orethrius:

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Visual Basic and Qbasic's are good newb languages.

Oh sorry they're M$ so I must recommend FreeBASIC.
--- End quote ---
It would seem you're not quite as convicted as your signature belies.

Visual Basic has horrendous loadtimes, and Q is all but gone - find an interpreter. Go ahead, we'll wait. Now for the rest of us that want to get with a REAL programming language instead of a "slap-together-a-script-kiddy-device-in-under-a-minute" language, head on over to pick up MinGW, GCC (you'll need Cygwin if you expect this particular GNU compiler to compile on a non-GNU system), or Bloodshed Dev-C++.

Oh, and Jonez, it seems you linked to the wrong site; FreeBASIC may be found at http://www.freebasic.net/index.php/download.

Jack2000:
"slap-together-a-script-kiddy-device-in-under-a-minute"
muhuahah that is the whole Microsoft ideology

Pathos:
I LOATHE BLOOSHED DEV-C++

it is the most awful ide...

Hang on... why are you suggesting windows only ides?

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