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Learning programming-where to start
Kintaro:
--- Quote ---or write it up in Open Office
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Are you fucked in the skull, brain damaged, severely schizophrenic, missing a chromosome, or just fucking inbred?
Kintaro:
Oh and another totally kick arse language that covers nearly everything is PHP. Its also pretty easy to implement and use, has a shitload of functions, and is just fucking cool.
Kintaro:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Visual Basic and Qbasic's are good newb languages.
Oh sorry they're M$ so I must recommend FreeBASIC.
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You fucking tool (no offence).
Those are the worst languages to start with in the world, don't touch them. I started with them and I regret it.
They don't support jack fucking squat (especially FreeBASIC and QBASIC) in the modern world and just plain suck. They also teach REALLY BAD FUCKING HABITS for a new programmer that make it almost impossible to wrap your mind around real langauges and anything that works remotely close to the machine level.
Kintaro:
--- Quote ---ESR also recommends Python
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I am offically never touching python. I hate ESR.
Kintaro:
--- Quote from: muzzy ---The government of Muzzylandia cannot recommend C++ to a complete newbie. It has way too many newbie traps and problems, and its abstractions tend to leak to machine level in every implementation of it so you need to understand a lot more than just the programming language when your program doesn't work and you need to fix it.
Python is fine, even though I find the indentation issue to be unholy.
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I kinda understand what you mean having learned the ghastly language at like... 13 years old... It can get pretty confusing (ESPECIALLY IF YOU KNEW FUCKING QBASIC ARGH SUICIDE PLEASE NOW OH GOD THE TRUMA MICROSOFT SHOULD BE PAYING MY SHRINK BILLS)... but languages like C and C++ actually tend to force you to learn about at least the basics of how computers work to master them, which is good.
My primary word of advice in the world of hacking and programming is to learn how it works, not just how to work it.
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