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Linux vs Windows a real life comparison
H_TeXMeX_H:
--- Quote from: toadlife ---Right now you riding the wave of obscurity, and judging by your "blame the software" attitude, if linux had 95% marketshare on the desktop, your linux box would have just as many security issues as your Widnows box did.
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I doubt it considering the fact that Linux is incomparable to Winblow$ in security ... and the fact that Winblow$ has serious design flaws.
--- Quote from: toadlife --- So you're saying that instead of learning the root causes of security issue in Windows, and addressing them, you jumped ahead to the easy "solution" of installing applications that only take action after you've been exploited.
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Uhhhh ... so you're saying it's my job to patch up Winblow$'s many holes ? Sorry ... I got better shit to do.
--- Quote from: toadlife --- My best is that you installed so many redundant security applications, that they stepped all over eachother and caused the majority of the stability problems you spoke of.
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I don't see how "redundant" they were since each spy-remover I installed (they were all legitimate anti-spyware programs ... I checked) seemed to detect malware that the others somehow missed.
By trying to 'make it more secure' I mean a feutile attempt to do Bill Gates's work for him and patch up Winblow$ myself in whatever way I found ... I searched the net long and hard for solutions ... they ended up being half-assed solutions ... the most I can expect for Winblow$
toadlife:
--- Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H ---I doubt it considering the fact that Linux is incomparable to Winblow$ in security ... and the fact that Winblow$ has serious design flaws.
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Do you even understand anyththing written on that page? Do also know that almost all of that shit on that page is either hyperbole or just plan wrong?
--- Quote ---Uhhhh ... so you're saying it's my job to patch up Winblow$'s many holes ? Sorry ... I got better shit to do.
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No, it your job to have a rudimetary understanding of security. It obvious that you don't, so perhaps an obscure desktoip OS like linux is a good thing for you.
--- Quote --- I don't see how "redundant" they were since each spy-remover I installed (they were all legitimate anti-spyware programs ... I checked) seemed to detect malware that the others somehow missed.
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Again you completely miss the point. WHy were you getting spyware in the first place? Did you even attempt to figure it out? There are very easy measures you cant ake to protect yourself from spyware that don;t involve installing hundreds of anti-spyware apps.
--- Quote --- By trying to 'make it more secure' I mean a feutile attempt to do Bill Gates's work for him and patch up Winblow$ myself in whatever way I found ...
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There is no patching up to do. There are a few very simple steps you can take to make Windows very safe.
--- Quote --- I searched the net long and hard for solutions ... they ended up being half-assed solutions
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Like what? What solutions did you try? Installing 20 anti-spyware apps? That's not a solution, thats a reaction. Did you create a limited user account for yourself? Did you turn of file and printer sharing? Did you use firefox instead of IE? Did you refrain from blindly executing random email attachments? What exactly did you do? Linux doesn't do anything to protect you that windows can't easily do.
H_TeXMeX_H:
--- Quote from: toadlife ---No, it your job to have a rudimetary understanding of security. It obvious that you don't, so perhaps an obscure desktoip OS like linux is a good thing for you.
Again you completely miss the point. WHy were you getting spyware in the first place? Did you even attempt to figure it out? There are very easy measures you cant ake to protect yourself from spyware that don;t involve installing hundreds of anti-spyware apps.
There is no patching up to do. There are a few very simple steps you can take to make Windows very safe.
Like what? What solutions did you try? Installing 20 anti-spyware apps? That's not a solution, thats a reaction. Did you create a limited user account for yourself? Did you turn of file and printer sharing? Did you use firefox instead of IE? Did you refrain from blindly executing random email attachments? What exactly did you do? Linux doesn't do anything to protect you that windows can't easily do.
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Please elaborate on the possible steps to make Window$ more secure ... ok to answer your questions in order ... Yes I did install about 20 anti-spy aps ... I used the admin account, I turned off all file sharing and printer sharing, and remote desktop, and instant messenger and all that shit. Of course I used Firefox ... I never executed a sigle attachment ... ever ... in fact executables of any kind were disabled on my mail server. As I said I installed at least 20 anti-spymare programs, , both a hardware (router) and a software (McAfee) firewall ... as well as McAfee anti-virus, I disabled any sharing and remote anything (desktop, registry, etc.), disabled Window$ messenger, and did a whole bunch of other stuff like applied a null IPC fix (just in case it wasn't fixed), and disabled Admin shares, DCOM, lots of services and many more things (I can't remember them all ... nor do I care to). I looked up every potential exploit and fixed it ... or at least attempted to.
I agree with you that Linux was a very good thing for me :D
So again ... please elaborate and list all steps (or most) that may possibly make a Window$ machine even marginally more secure ... I don't believe it's possible, but I wanna hear what you have to say ...
(Just in case you were wondering ... there was a chance -- a very good chance -- that my computer was infected by the $ony DRM rootkit ... if so then I'm sure there still "are a few very simple steps 'I' can take to make Windows very safe.")
dmcfarland:
I only know Windows crashes no matter how fast, how big the hard drive, no matter how much RAM you have, cpu speed, or video acceleration. Windows crashes no matter what, on a regular basis, and it has more holes in it than oday and cusay hussien.
toadlife:
--- Quote from: dmcfarland ---I only know Windows crashes no matter how fast, how big the hard drive, no matter how much RAM you have, cpu speed, or video acceleration. Windows crashes no matter what, on a regular basis, and it has more holes in it than oday and cusay hussien.
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Sorry to hear that. It doesn't for me.
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