Author Topic: knoppix on usb key  (Read 2554 times)

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Re: linux on usb key
« Reply #15 on: 3 December 2005, 19:16 »
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Interesting, you should follow the point that the majority of drives support better USB 2.0 compared to Firewire. Of course if your using it to link 2 machines its fucking badarse.

Well, as you know, firewire is only really popular with macs, so even though USB 2.0 is slower, a lot more computers have it compared to firewire. I just thought that the reason that usb keys tend to burn out when they have a swap partition on them is probably because they weren't designed for constant transfer at max speed, unlike firewire.

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Re: linux on usb key
« Reply #16 on: 4 December 2005, 00:59 »
Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
Knoppix doesn't need a swap if you've got more than 256MB of memory.

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I've run it at work on a doze box with 128MB and no swap, but that was a year ago and I don't know if the latest version will run on that machine.

You should be able to run Damn Small Linux on a 64MB machine with no swap.

it mostly works on my 22mg ram laptop :) except for firefox

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Re: linux on usb key
« Reply #17 on: 4 December 2005, 01:02 »
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it mostly works on my 22mg ram laptop :) except for firefox
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Re: knoppix on usb key
« Reply #18 on: 12 December 2005, 09:19 »
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Not really ... I'm pretty sure it's the opposite ... Firewire is 16 % to 70 % faster than USB 2.0 ;)

Articles: One , Two
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From article one:
[indent]The Windows PC implementation of USB 2.0 puts the Mac to shame. Today we tested the same USB 2.0 drive/enclosure on a Windows PC (3GHz Pentium 4) with built-in USB 2.0 on the motherboard, similar to Apple's approach. We measured 33MB/s READ and 27MB/s WRITE.
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So, USB 2.0 is much slower than firewire...if you're running a Mac. On a PC, it's marginally slower. Could it be that firewire died out because it was more expensive to impliment than USB, not worth the extra cost for the tiny improvement in performance? Cost is everything in the commodity PC world.
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Re: knoppix on usb key
« Reply #19 on: 12 December 2005, 18:02 »
That page also says:
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NOTE: We formatted the test drive as "Mac OS Extended" or HFS+ when testing on the Mac. Then we reformatted the drive in NTFS when I moved the drive to the Windows PC.

So it could be the filesystem too.  They should've tested both with FAT32.
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Re: knoppix on usb key
« Reply #20 on: 12 December 2005, 18:56 »
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That page also says:

So it could be the filesystem too.  They should've tested both with FAT32.

Agreed, a benchmark of this sort can only be compared if you are using the same filesystem on both machines.


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Re: linux on usb key
« Reply #21 on: 12 December 2005, 19:28 »
here is some more info

USB 2.0 is 480mbits/s or 60Mbytes/s
Firewire 400 is 400mbits/s or 50Mbytes/s
Firewire 800 is 800mbits/s or 100mbytes/s
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Re: linux on usb key
« Reply #22 on: 12 December 2005, 21:16 »
As I told you in another thread, those are simply the rated speeds.  None of them will run at those speeds, and certainly not sustained.
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Re: linux on usb key
« Reply #23 on: 14 December 2005, 12:00 »
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