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farcry runs like crap on the FX series because the FX were really shitty cards. The Ti series beats the FX in mostly all dx8 benchmarks. The top line of the FX series was also complete crap (FX 5900/5950) becuase they used a hybrid version of pixel pipelines (4x2, making it not use full potential of pixel pipelines in all games) while it's competitor 9800's used 8x1. The FX series also do not fully support dx9 (even though the box says so)...

H_TeXMeX_H, if you don't beleive these added capabililites add much more check out the comparison between different pixel shaders Also check out High Dynamic Range (HDR)

Don't blame MS, MS is responsible for the API, not the backward compatability that some games are lacking (but will fuck us for backward compatabililty for DX10 if anybody actually read this article instead of bitching about their GPU's) blame the game makers that you can't play their games because they don't have support for older cards. HL2 will on on practicaly any card that's DX7+, the engine has support to drop features so older cards can run it and still get good frames, for example on your Ti HL2 would run in dx8 mode. BF2 won't run on your PC becuase it's made by EA, EA is known for not getting shit done so you're not missing much...

MarathoN:
Yeah, I already know most of the stuff about the FX series being shit, but the thing that annoys me is that I paid almost the same price as my last card and my last card was at least twice as good in directx 9 games (Far Cry was actually playable) :rolleyes:

Although, my card does quite well on the Source Engine, even if it is only DirectX 8.0 :p

H_TeXMeX_H:

--- Quote from: e7ement ---farcry runs like crap on the FX series because the FX were really shitty cards. The Ti series beats the FX in mostly all dx8 benchmarks. The top line of the FX series was also complete crap (FX 5900/5950) becuase they used a hybrid version of pixel pipelines (4x2, making it not use full potential of pixel pipelines in all games) while it's competitor 9800's used 8x1. The FX series also do not fully support dx9 (even though the box says so)...

H_TeXMeX_H, if you don't beleive these added capabililites add much more check out the comparison between different pixel shaders Also check out High Dynamic Range (HDR)

Don't blame MS, MS is responsible for the API, not the backward compatability that some games are lacking (but will fuck us for backward compatabililty for DX10 if anybody actually read this article instead of bitching about their GPU's) blame the game makers that you can't play their games because they don't have support for older cards. HL2 will on on practicaly any card that's DX7+, the engine has support to drop features so older cards can run it and still get good frames, for example on your Ti HL2 would run in dx8 mode. BF2 won't run on your PC becuase it's made by EA, EA is known for not getting shit done so you're not missing much...
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Ok, you're probably right, EA takes most of the blame for BF2 ... and yeah, I agree, there is a big difference when comparing pixel shaders ... the only question is ... which one looks better. In some cases SM3.0 looks better than SM2.0 ... and in others, it's the other way around.


--- Quote --- In another apples and realworld oranges comparison, we have to think our SM2.0 staircase looks a bit more realistic than the SM3.0.
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And yeah ... SM1.1 sucks no matter what.

As for DX10 ... it makes for no forward-compatability, cuz you can't play most older games with DX10 and a new vid-card, and no back-compatability cuz older cards don't support DX10. Did I say that right ? If I didn't, then here ... the word 'compatibility' is not in DX10's list of pros.

Lead Head:

--- Quote from: e7ement ---Hey I'm a hardware nerd (and still getting better at CSS and XHTML, on to PHP next though. ;)



Incorrect. The card cannot physically handle the new shaders and new technology. Every new version of dx adds more capabilities. The Ti series cannot handle them. It's outdated. It's a VS1.1 while everything is VS2.0 and rapidly moving up to 3.0

the Ti4800 is better than the geforce3 hybrid card used in the xbox, but it's still crap. and keep in mind xbox runs games @ 640x480 with no AA/AF...

edit: it's a crap card. ;)
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wrong. NTSC is 320x240 @ 24FPS, so its card has it easy not having to render at  above 24FPS

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NTSC is 640x480 (4:3) which is the native standard tv resolution. 320x240? what the fuck.

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