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hm_murdock:
Actually, the memory management in Windows NT isn't "bad". It's the fact that modern programmers are extremely lazy, cranking out shoddy code with tons of bloat, broken code, and all-round wastefulness. One huge reason that the system becomes so unstable is that this same level of piss-poor quality typically is given to hardware drivers as well. OEMs try to get their driver programmers, who have probably never made anything but Java chat programs and 3D games to add crap to a simple driver for a sound card that plugs into 250MB worth of crap "home entertainment" software that came with the sound card. What happens? ALL OF IT IS GARBAGE AND IT CRASHES THE SYSTEM.

These same drivers are often times greedy with memory allocation for the hardware. But then, there's not a single piece of software that exists nowadays that isn't greedy. The problem I see is that it's likely that the suits got it in their head, that idea that "computers are going so fast that programs will never catch up," so they had their boys just rape the shit out of the code. Who gives a blue fuck if it's efficient or stable? The computer is fast and smart enough to make it run well.

Garbage.

How do I know that this is the case? I was there for Mac OS 8's release. I remember when it was a BIG DEAL that it would be more stable... and it was... but then, it had simply become easier to spot the shitty apps. Classic Mac had its share of shit programs, mostly anything that was a piss poor port of a Windows app, like AIM, Yahoo, or even a lot of games. Quite a bit of native software was just plain ass, as well. Drivers for hardware, many times would knock heads with some other extension or control panel. Why? LAZINESS.

I know it's easy to blame MS for all the problems, but you really need to sit back and think for a moment... "When I run better quality software, Windows doesn't fuck up." Now, think about the reason for that. Is it possible that maybe Windows isn't as bad as you like to bitch about? Is there even the most remote possibility that maybe it doesn't suck? Could you ever even conceptualize that Windows isn't "shit"?

Somehow I doubt it.

dmcfarland:
No I cant.

worker201:
As an avid user of Adobe Illustrator, I have used it extensively in OSX and Windows (95, 98, and XP).  The memory management issues are much worse in Windows.  Unless Adobe has been pulling some fucked up shit, this isn't their fault.  With no other applications running, this kinda points to Windows as the culprit.  Especially when I boot up Linux and run something even more memory intensive than a huge Illustrator file, and have no problems whatsoever on the same machine.  If I had to guess, based on what I have seen, the problem is that Windows allots itself too much memory, and is reluctant to give it up to other programs.  Linux, I believe doesn't allow enough, which makes some basic apps seem slow, and makes your desktop not refresh as often as you might like.  

I'm sure Microsoft chose to have Windows manage memory the way they did for a reason.  But I'm saying that this reason is often inhibitive to hardcore work.

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---This works in Word but I don't have Word at home so I'll show you with WordPad and MS Paint and even OpenOffice.

You can paste from MS Paint to WordPad:
http://www.illhostit.com/files/9010837856089104/OLE1.PNG

Click on it and up pops a MS Paint tool bar allowing you to edit the image:
http://www.illhostit.com/files/3812224035403325/OLE2.PNG

Look you can even insert OpenOffice Drawings into WordPad!
http://www.illhostit.com/files/8067180888122247/OLE3.PNG

--- End quote ---
Feck that is cool. I wonder is anyone working on bringing this to GNU/Linux...

dmcfarland:
Windows XP access swap file memory instead of RAM. I dont know if thats normal for OS's to do. Its slows the system down a lot. I can  load a lot more stuff up on  linux than I can on Windows

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