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hm_murdock:
--- Quote from: "worker201" ---Jimmy, I mailed you a Fedora DVD. Paid for the shipping costs out of my own pocket. Shame on you for saying how anti-community I am.
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I didn't say you were anti-community. What I did say is that sometimes the community can be quite hostile toward new ideas.
Not every idea, and not every time. But there are certain issues that I see a large number of people dislike. Methods of getting software in to Linux is one of those things.
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: Worker201 ---OpenOffice or X11 - you should never have to try to build those from source, because they are available from like 10 different package management systems.
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OpenOffice is rpm only.
--- Quote from: Worker201 ---Linux does "just work"
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Of course it does and it works well out of the box but installing shit on Linux well that's a totally different story.
--- Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H ---it's like saying lets all switch to using .zip for all our archives
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But how many different archive formats do you see on the Internet?
Two, three maybe?
Exactly no one wants to fuck around with distributing their files in so many fucking different formats.
I've tried installing Opera onb Ubuntu, it fucked up.
I've tried installing codecs on Ubuntu they didn't fucking work.
I've tried OpenOffice 1.1.5 which came with a binary installer and it worked, but when I tried OO 2.0.1 which was a package it fucked up and the same applies to Vector Linux.
Packages in general are a good idea but the community should be focusing their time on developing more on developing one or even two different systems that are compatable rather than loads of shitty ones.
--- Quote from: JimmyJamesRoolz ---Not every idea, and not every time. But there are certain issues that I see a large number of people dislike. Methods of getting software in to Linux is one of those things.
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You're right, I'm right we both know we're right so let's just accept that no one's going to liston because we're right.
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---
You're right, I'm right we both know we're right so let's just accept that no one's going to liston because we're right.
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No, you THINK you're right just the same we we THINK we're right.
--- Quote ---Packages in general are a good idea but the community should be focusing their time on developing more on developing one or even two different systems that are compatable rather than loads of shitty ones.
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Xorg, GNOME, and hundreds more packages that work with GNU/Linux are released by the developers only in ONE source format, yet you see them on a fuckload of distributions.
GET YOU'RE PACKAGES (OpenOffice WTF were you thinking?) OFF YOUR DISTRIBUTOR, THAT'S WHY THEY PROVIDE THEM.
SkyNet:
:tux: says: damn man, all this shit about pkg management fucking up is usually user error, not the OS. Granted dependency hell is there just like RPM hell... but I digress. opera on ubuntu.. download the fucking file from operadotcom... open terminal... sudo apt-get install o(TAB for filename completion) and hit enter.. type in your fucking password and its done.. How fucking hard is that?
Again, pkg management is not fucked up, its usually the user. Blaming the OS is like trying to sue the car maker because you can't figure out how to use the fucking horn.. RTFM :tux:
Aloone_Jonez:
Not my fault it fucked up I downloaded the correct Opera package for my distro and followed the instructions to the letter and it didn't work. I also followed Piratepenguin's instructions when installing the codec package and it just didn't work.
I've managed to get FireFox 1.5 and OpenOffice 1.1.5 to work with no problems and DOSEmu installed well too it's just those fucking stupid packages that fuck up on me.
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