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The Vandalisation of Windows
cymon:
My god, someone get this one a chill pill.
Mabye he doesn't want to deal with RPM hell. Most binaries are RPM's, but what if he uses Debian? So now he has two choices, bitch for a deb, or compile from source. Source compilation takes time, and isn't available for a closed product like Opera.
But wait, the Distro provider has a repo, right? Let's say Joe Debianuser wants to run OpenOffice.org. Now, it has a RPM installer, screwing him over, and the Debian repo has 1.1 as the latest version. Now he has to waste his time compiling it.
OSX doesn't have package issues. Neither does Windows, FreeBSD, or any other OS around. Why should Linux get screwed.
And if you ever want people to switch to Linux, being a little shit-face eliteist doesn't help them.
Aloone_Jonez:
Anyway I'd like to discuss the Linux package isssue in a separate thread, could a mod please move the posts that deal with it to the Linux section under a name like Linux Package problems?
Meanwhile back on topic, Microsoft know that restricted accounts can increase security but they don't educate the average joe about this when they install Windows. You have to search their website for this info and I only found it by shear luck when I was browsing Google:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/luawinxp.mspx
SkyNet:
:tux: says : A shit faced elitist. Uh Huh.. Anyway. ubuntu is debian based, so yep you are too correct there. Admittedly it took about two days of google-work to find correct way to install opera. Apologies if I came off as whatever dude labeled me as. Apologies not to dude, but to my fellow linux user. So far, apt-get works great, provided you always precede the install with sudo apt-get check (for busted dependencies) then sudo apt-get update (for out of date packages) not sure on wether that order means anything, but has (so-far) solved my dependency nightmares) then the old sudo apt-get install 'your cool package desired here'.
Also, sudo apt-get clean keeps disk space freed up when you're done by removing all that extra source you didn't need.
Agreed as to your suggestion on this thread needing to get moved to the linux portion of the forums.
:tux: I suppose I must have tagged my previous post with 'Flame On ' or something. Heh
H_TeXMeX_H:
hmmm ... so I guess yum is a bit better than apt-get, cuz I never had that many dependency problems (like 2 total) ... still it would probably be cooler if all dependencies were included with every install (having something install properly is more important than keeping packages small)
SkyNet:
:tux: says: I would have to agree with you as far as Yum being better than apt-get, as far as its usage to Ubuntu's flavors. As for installer probs with Opera, that's more about Opera not truly being ported for Ubuntu dist, which is on ubuntu, not Opera. Almost everything else I have had no install issues. But yes, ease of installation is or should be more important, unless you are an elitist ( :fu: ) and just have to desire building all of your apps from source. Heh :tux:
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