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The Vandalisation of Windows
cymon:
--- Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H ---hmmm ... so I guess yum is a bit better than apt-get, cuz I never had that many dependency problems (like 2 total) ... still it would probably be cooler if all dependencies were included with every install (having something install properly is more important than keeping packages small)
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With APT, you NEVER have dependancy issues. Dependencies are calculated and installed. That's the wonder of Debian.
H_TeXMeX_H:
Hmmm ... well, uhhh ... SkyNet said he had some dependency problems with apt ... so ... I'm not sure that any package manager is perfect, not even apt
Orethrius:
--- Quote from: cymon ---With APT, you NEVER have dependancy issues. Dependencies are calculated and installed. That's the wonder of Debian.
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Wow, um... that's a little like saying that Portage automatically gets the latest and greatest of everything, resolves package dependencies, and builds all on its own. You're still going to need package.keywords, and THAT doesn't guarantee you'll be on the bleeding-edge as it were. Let's call apples apples: when you go for the latest and greatest, regardless of packaging standards, you're going to run into missing dependencies every now and again. Nobody can plan all possible scenarios for all distros (what we have being wholly remarkable, considering Microsoft can barely keep up with JUST PATCHES for ONE system).
piratePenguin:
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Windows cannot do this on 256MB RAM. And to think that my system is still running responsive as ever with all that stuff open.. I mean, here, I just drew a gradient in GIMP (you'll notice the time in the clock is the same), not a hitch. A look at the System Monitor. Is that two/three/FOUR FUCKING times more memory being used than physical RAM available? How the FUCK is it still so fucking responsive. I didn't close anything between then and now, and I'd hardley know KDevelop, the GIMP, Inkscape, KWord, amaroK, the System Monitor, and Gnome Terminal are running but for the cluttered taskbar (image.
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And what's 1,000 times cooler, is that I could do all that crap on a 32MB RAM machine with wireless connectivity and no disk-drive*.
You're staring at the reason I'm starting to get interested in embedded hardware. Oh the possibilities...
* Xorg, LTSP, I love you.
worker201:
No matter what packaging system you use, you can still run into problems of incompatible versioning. This program needs version4, that program needs version5, and you can't have both. I admit that it looks frustrating to someone who is just on this Linux ride to try it out, but for the diehards, it's like a challenge, and there are some creative-ass solutions to these kinds of issues out there.
I complain every once in awhile about 9 hour Google bughunts and rpm searches, but in reality, I love that stuff - it makes me happy. It's why computers are so fun and engaging - they can take every synapse in your brain and put it to work on solving what sounds like the most trivial of problems. You forget to smoke, eat, drink, sleep, screw, etc, because you are so into it. Like crack, but only costs like $1000 per year.
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